Farscape or SG-1

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SABACEANBABE

Wednesday, October 13, 2004 2:36 PM

I'm going to weigh in here with a recommendation for Farscape.

I like SG-1. I love Firefly. I love Buffy. I LOVE Farscape.

Although they have no storylines or situations in common, Farscape, Firefly, and Buffy all have wit, intelligence, humor, emotion, great characterizations and character interaction in common. (SG-1 has this, too, just in a different way.)

The difference for me that makes me like SG-1 and love the other 3 is that SG-1 is, imho, plot-driven while the others are character-driven. I've seen plenty of eps in SG-1 where one of them acts out of character to move the plot along, but I can't recall a single ep of the other shows where this has happened. It's kind of a knock-you-out-of-the-story thing when it happens.

If you want DVDs of any of these shows at a pretty good price and free shipping, though, hit www.deepdiscountdvd.com. At least with Farscape, you can get the box sets for nearly half off the regular (exhorbitant) price.

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JENDANDY

Thursday, October 14, 2004 3:21 AM

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Originally posted by SabaceanBabe:

Although they have no storylines or situations in common, Farscape, Firefly, and Buffy all have wit, intelligence, humor, emotion, great characterizations and character interaction in common. (SG-1 has this, too, just in a different way.)

The difference for me that makes me like SG-1 and love the other 3 is that SG-1 is, imho, plot-driven while the others are character-driven.

Ahh, there's the clincher for me. I definitely prefer great characters above all else. I can think of quite a few Buffy episodes that had some really sorry plots but the character interaction was so great you could look past that. Farscape would probably be right up my alley.

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BANDANAGIRL

Friday, October 15, 2004 10:29 PM

Hello I'm really new to this board and I'm just figuring out how everything is working. Right now I can't figure out who started this thread but thank you for broadening your horizons. I've met sooooooooo many fans of just Buffy and Angel and refuse to try anything new new. It's like they're afrad of catching germs or something. Usually I'm pretty afraid of Joss Whedon fans since they only seem to feel Angel and Buffy are the only scifi out there.

First off I've never seen a whole ep SG1. I choose not to. For me I'm not a fan of the American military going off doing science fictiony things. That's just me. When Buffy first started I mercelessly made fun of my younger sis for watching it. Then I became addicted during the season 5 cliffhanger and watched a lot of the earlier eps. I think that's what someone mentioned about resonance. Although I rarely watched Buffy (at that point), When I saw Buffy jump off the precipice to save the sister she only had for a year. My Jaw hit the floor and I actually got out of my chair in shock!!!!!! I don't feel I could ever get that from Stargate.

Farscape gives that that same kind of resonance, that that moment on Buffy gave me. Angel did it for me too. Buffy, Farscape and Angel (and other shows to that I won't memtion right now)All have that weight. There was a reason that the season 3 opener os Farscape was the highest rating SciFi channel ever got at that time. The season 2 cliffhanger was horrendous. People were crying. I deemed it cruel and unusual punishiment, to leave people that emotionally distressed for more then a day.

When farscape got cancelled I even crashed my bycycle into a telephone pole since I was so shocked and distracted. I even got a sprained wrist. I don't think that would happen to me with Stargate.

Also I noticed that someone mentioned how SG is the here and now. Well with Farscape, The main character is from the here and now and he makes a lot of references, to current pop culture (and he's a Buffy fan) Also, I don't want to spoil but in season 4 they deal with a HUGE contemporary issue and it dosen't ring hollow like how it felt when Voyager or enterprise did (for me).

To apply an ice cream analogy, to me Stargate is like Vanalla while Farscape is like Mint chocolate chip, rocky road and butterscotch ripple all rolled into one.
If you want I can give a home decor analogy too.
Anyway I'm done.

EMPRESSPIRK

Sunday, October 17, 2004 7:32 AM

Just to let you guys know I’m watching Farscape now and it’s all your fault . Meaning all the posts and comments about the greatness of Farscape I’ve encountered while wandering on these Firefly/sci-fi message boards finally drove me to take a second look. And it’s been a wonderful ride so far (I’m about to finish the 2nd season). Really, there’s gonna be crying?. Nice. I mean, I’m even more excited now .

EDIT: I've watched the 2nd season now and I DIDN'T cry. I just...you know...had something in my eye. Damn, this is great series and there's still so much left.

I also have about 5 season’s worth of experience of Stargåte and I second what Bikisdad said:

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Stargate is a great show that you could really like a lot.

Farscape is a great show that you could really LOVE.

The "emotional resonance" thing, I second that too.

Both series are enjoyable but the whole Crichton/Aeryn relationship...maybe it’s just a girlie thing.

Anyway, if I should turn into a Scaper in the near future I blame you folks, all the Scaper/Browncoat hybrids out there. Hope you’re happy. Cause, you know, I am.

I’m not taking off my Browncoat. Ever.

Enjoy the Peacekeeper Wars tonight (already Sunday here), I'll catch up with you later.

LUNCHSTEALER

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 12:42 AM

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Originally posted by Bandanagirl:
Joss Whedon fans ... seem to feel Angel and Buffy are the only scifi out there.

Can't speak for everybody, but I think Browncoats are gonna be a broader-minded bunch.

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Originally posted by Bandanagirl:
When I saw Buffy jump off the precipice to save the sister she only had for a year. My Jaw hit the floor and I actually got out of my chair in shock!!!!!! I don't feel I could ever get that from Stargate.

I'm a biiiigg Stargate fan. Almost as big a fan of SG1 as of Buffy. But I never (or haven't yet) bought the SG1 DVDs for the reason you point out. They did once manage to get something approaching the resonance of The Gift or Grave, but they had to destroy an entire populated planet to do it.

I guess the appeal of SG1 for me is two-fold. One, its nearly as funny as Buffy, and funnier than Angel (except maybe Season 5 - cause Spike & Harm are hilarious). Second, its got the science-geek optimism of ST:TOS or B5. Its a certain idealistic naivete that I respond to. Interestingly, the new show SG:Atlantis, might be more up your alley. More international, less military, and possibly even funnier. I've got a friend who never watched SG-1 that's totally into it. Go figure.

I'd say that SG-1 is more along the Cookies-and-Cream lines. Still mostly vanilla, but with more texture than you give it credit for. Buffy, OTOH, is a Cappuchino Cookies-n-Cream, cause that's about the only thing I've found thats better than C-n-C.

Can't speak to Farscape though. Return of the Jedi was about my limit for muppet-based Sci-Fi, so I never watched it. Maybe it just seems too fancy - like Mint chocolate chip, rocky road and butterscotch ripple all rolled into one. An awful lot of people liked it, though, so It'd probably be a better combo with SG1 than Andromeda (never watched Andromeda, either, though so it might also be an undiscovered gem)

DINGOACTION

Thursday, October 21, 2004 4:57 AM

Yeah, I'm officially joining the ranks of those who got converted to Farscape via Joss people (I specifically blame heroinechic.net, actually, but you lot didn't help ). I'm crazy in love with this show, and I'm only half way through season 3. Oh, the glorious tears I shed...seriously, I've never cried over a tv show like that. (eta: ok, maybe The Body...and the Gift. But it doesn't happen often.)

uh, topic. Big fan of SG-1, too. But honestly, comparing the two's not fair. Stargate's the kind of thing you can have on in the background while you type a paper; that never works with Farscape--I last about a minute and a half before I completly leave my desk.

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UNCHARTEDOUTLAW

Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:34 PM

Far. Scape. It is better written, better acted (nothing against MacGyver, tho), better filmed, and overall smarter than SG-1. The SciFi Channel simply confirmed my suspicions that it is run by a bunch of inbred, buck-toothed, gorram, idjits (nothing against people living in backwater areas who fit the description above) by dropping its best show ever and not only continuing, but expanding, Stargate. Stargate was a neat movie, but it's a lame series!

Can you tell I'm biased? And apparently have some venting to do?

-Taylor

Uncharted Outlaw!

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SPACEFILLE

Friday, October 22, 2004 8:38 PM

There are already 56 replies but I figured I'd throw in my own two cents... I'm a huge fan of SG-1. Been for 7 years. I find that the characters are addicting and you end up watching it for them. Stargate SG-1, for me, ended up replacing Star Trek (as I was kinda raised on Star Trek). It's well done and enjoyable, though probably a bit hard to get into. (It took me two or three episodes to "get addicted").

As for Farscape, I've watched about a half a season of various episodes and I just can't get into it at all. I do agree that it is very innovative, which is nice to see, but a huuuuge drawback is the fact that I can't stand approximately half of the main characters on there. Also, I don't know if this is a factor, but I don't find Crichton hot, unlike most of my female friends. And admittedly, if one isn't drooling over Crichton, there isn't much else on that show for the women to look at if you know what I mean. Lots of beautiful women for the men, however. ;)

TMURRIE

Friday, October 22, 2004 10:42 PM

I didn't really ever see Farscape in order, I saw one from this season, this other one from this season. I never really got it until it moved from YTV(a kids channel, I live in Canada you see) to the space channel. But even so, I haven't seen a whole bunch of it.

As for stargate, I love it. People say it can be dull and dry but I just really like it. But where the heck can I catch the spinoff show? They made a spinoff show? where was I for this? oh right...canada.. Anyways whats this new show like? Stargate:Atlantis, right?

LINDEN

Saturday, October 23, 2004 12:51 AM

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Originally posted by JenDandy:
Soooo...in the interest of trying something new, I've heard great things about Stargate: SG-1 and Farscape. What are your opinions of them? Which is the better show?

Which is the better show, you ask? Well...

Stargate SG1: I like Stargate SG1 a lot, I like the characters and I enjoy the stories a great deal and there is a lot of great humour and chemistry between the actors. But I don't love it. Here's why: I don't feel enough of an emotional connection to it. I don't feel like they take enough risks with the material. They don't go all the way. They could do so much more. But I still watch because it still entertains me, just not on a deeper level.

Farscape: It took me a while to get into Farscape and a lot of that had to with the weirdness of that entire universe. These are not your everyday huggable, loveable characters. They fight with each other, they argue, they make many mistakes along the way and the puppets annoyed me at first. BUT! the emotional aspects are very much there. I connect with the stories. I connect with the hardship that especially Crichton and Aeryn have to go through. There are tears and then there are more tears on top of that. Damn it, they're good!

So basically: Farscape is the better show, IMO, but there's still a lot of fun to be had with Stargate.

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Originally posted by Bikisdad:
Stargate is a great show that you could really like a lot.

Farscape is a great show that you could really LOVE.

Sums it up.

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Originally posted by Bikisdad:
I see why we're disagreeing here - it's not about SG-1 at all. The problem is that your entire opinion of Farscape appears to be based on one or two episodes out of the 88 that exist. I could pick out one or two episodes of Buffy or Angel to show people where they would say "Dude, that show sucks". However, that obviously wouldn't be a valid opinion because they would not have seen all the great B/A epiodes that would cause them to say "What an incredible show!" The same is true of Farscape. There is an episode once in a while where I go "Ugh! Glad that's over". However, that doesn't really detract from the ones where I just sit in stunned silence afterward at the incredibleness of it.

I'm just saying, if you're going to put Farscape down in favor of SG-1, you should really get to know the real Farscape in its entirety and not base your opinion on a very small sampling of episodes.

And I agree with this too. It's not fair to judge a show based on only a handful of episodes here and there, IMO. The relationship between Aeryn and Crichton is at the very core of Farscape in much the same way that Buffy and Angel was at the core of Buffy for its first three seasons.
Die Me, Dichotomy and Infinite Possibilities... Lordie, lordie, I thought I was gonna pass out from crying too much.

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Originally posted by wren:
My incredible level of insight is that Farscape is worth watching because Ben Browder looks very fine leather.

And of course, there's that.

I'd give Stargate Atlantis a try as well. It's new, it's fresh and I actually like it more than SG1.

Oh, and Babylon 5 rocks!

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