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• U.S. Troops Mutiny in Iraq

POSTED BY: GinoBiffaroni
UPDATED: Friday, October 22, 2004 19:52
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Thursday, October 21, 2004 1:24 PM

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Originally posted by Static:
From what I've read and heard, this is my simple opinion. . .

WHAT they did was right. HOW they did it was wrong, and that's where we enter the realm of sticky wickets.

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The essence of duty is acting in the absence of ordes or direction from others, based on an inner sense of what is morally and professionally right.

-- General John A. Wickham
Former Army Chief of Staff




There was an ESSENTIAL mission, yet an UNREASONABLE risk was being placed on the soldiers. There are measures in place to give soldiers the opportunity to. . .not REFUSE an order . . .but to give command a better opportunity to RE-THINK that order. I'm not seeing or hearing where the Risk Assessment procedure was followed, where the chain of command was utilized, none of that. All I'm reading and hearing is that they were told to do it and they said, "F**k no! We're not equipped properly and the fuel is tainted anyhow!"

Well. . .they were RIGHT. . .but not professionally CORRECT. And that's what made them wrong.

They DO, however, have my MORAL support, because they took a stand on something that needed it.

Does any of this make sense?


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Perfect sense. Thanks Static.

"I actually voted for John Kerry, before I voted against him"

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Thursday, October 21, 2004 6:02 PM

Static:As ex-military, I agree that your statement makes perfect sense.

One wonders exactly HOW they "Refused the Order" ... or will it {or already 'has'} go through a Bush admin 'spin-cycle' - only time will tell.

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

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Friday, October 22, 2004 7:52 PM

So far as I understand it, the commanding officer who gave the order has resigned. So I'm guessing there is ALOT more to their story then what the media is spinning. They are all still active and so far no disciplinary action has been taken. It's just another signal that we don't know the whole story.

I'll see if I can find the link to the article I was reading about it, yesterday. One thing that is known for sure, the area they were supposed to be delivering to is a highly dangerous area and they would've been sitting ducks.

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