Ebolagate?
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 21:22
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Goodbye.
You big tease.
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So you ARE rapSF! That's good to know.
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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No, you have me confused w/ someone else, again.
How about you stop not saying goodbye, mmkay ?
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm not sticking w/ anything, honey.
The system did NOT work. 1 Ebola traveler from Africa is already dead.
But Barry sees no reason to scale back any travel to and from infected W. Africa.
Democrats Join Call To Ban Travelers From West Africa
WASHINGTON -- Three Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives have joined Republicans in calling on President Barack Obama to restrict travel by people from Ebola-stricken West Africa.
"The United States needs to institute travel restrictions, enhanced airport screening and possible quarantine of individuals who have traveled to, or from, the West African countries that have been most impacted by this tragic Ebola epidemic," says the Wednesday letter.
Reps. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.), Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) and Dave Loebsack (D-Iowa) joined two dozen Republicans in signing the letter. Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) is one of the only other Democrats who has called for a travel ban, most loudly advocated so far by Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R). (Grayson first called for a ban in July.) As The Hill reported, a new poll shows that a majority of Americans support the idea.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/09/ebola-travel-ban_n_5961446.ht
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Of course, it probably doesn't help any that Alan Grayson is bonafide nuts, but still, he's a Democrat.
Has anyone put forth any mechanism by which this travel ban would be enforced?
How do you propose to restrict people coming in from places that already don't have direct flights into this country?
How intrusive do you want to get? How far into the background checks do you want to go? How long would each background check take, and how long are you willing to wait to board a plane while that check is being done?
As usual, you propose more regulation, more authoritarian measures, and more security theatre, all of which you've already been shown won't work.
Maybe you should just propose building a wall around Africa.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
You're rappy. Simple enough? And you work? Really? Not so's I noticed.
Yes, AURaptor. Not ' SF ' anything.
And how would you know if I work or not ? And why would you care ?
Per the Ebola issue, the Dallas hospital sent Duncan home , even though he had a 103 degree temperature and he TOLD THEM he had just traveled to Africa.
" The system worked "
Like hell it did.
This is a privately-run hospital, isn't it? In a state that's rejected Obamacare and Medicaid expansion and is steadfastly against any kind of regulation on healthcare (unless it's a women's clinic, of course).
What you're really saying is that the American healthcare system failed. Again.
It tends to do that. Especially when it comes to those who don't have insurance, and even more especially if they happen to be of a darker skin color.
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Quote:You check passports on the way in. It shows your country of origin, and all of the places you traveled thru with a visa stamp most recently. Right?
Has anyone put forth any mechanism by which this travel ban would be enforced?
How do you propose to restrict people coming in from places that already don't have direct flights into this country?
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:You check passports on the way in. It shows your country of origin, and all of the places you traveled thru with a visa stamp most recently. Right?
Has anyone put forth any mechanism by which this travel ban would be enforced?
How do you propose to restrict people coming in from places that already don't have direct flights into this country?
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
The same method that makes it completely impossible for any American to ever go to Cuba, right?
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How do you plan to keep people from the affected areas from traveling to other parts of the world? What if other nations don't agree with our boycott, or adhere to it?
It's how you get to Cuba, isn't it? Get a "disposable" passport from a third-party nation like Mexico. Happens all the time.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Not a prediction. An explanation of the difficulties of doing something effective.
BTW, here's Obama's statement, which is very different from the one you CLAIM he said. I trust your English is sufficiently developed so that I don't need to explain what it means in simple terms:
First and foremost, I want the American people to know that our experts, here at the CDC and across our government, agree that the chances of an Ebola outbreak here in the United States are extremely low. We’ve been taking the necessary precautions, including working with countries in West Africa to increase screening at airports so that someone with the virus doesn’t get on a plane for the United States. In the unlikely event that someone with Ebola does reach our shores, we’ve taken new measures so that we’re prepared here at home. We’re working to help flight crews identify people who are sick, and more labs across our country now have the capacity to quickly test for the virus. We’re working with hospitals to make sure that they are prepared, and to ensure that our doctors, our nurses and our medical staff are trained, are ready, and are able to deal with a possible case safely.
When it comes to screening - I'd be really curious how many Ebola-positive people it'll pick up. Remember, Eric Duncan arrived on September 20 a healthy man, and didn't go to emergency until September 23. I predict (and this is a prediction) the screening will detect zero Ebola patients. It's being done for political reasons, to placate idiots.
But but but you must rememberfy that these screenings are being performed by highly trained medical specialists - AKA Stewardesses. And nurses who treated Duncan and now have Ebola are not going to count because....well, just because. Everybody is safe, no need to worry, I'll be teeing off at a course where Ebola is not allowed.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Goodbye.
You big tease.
Saw that coming.
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