This is a perfect example of why video games are MOSTLY a bad thing.
POSTED BY: Wishimay
UPDATED: Tuesday, November 4, 2025 14:28
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Saying it's all because of video games is kinda silly, I feel.
But at the end of the day, it IS video games that are causing it. They ARE addictive to many people- esp. with OCD and ADD and ADHD, and those disorders are suffered by men far more than women. It's like when Coke actually had cocaine in it, or tons of caffeine in a Red Bull, or nicotine in cigs. Pandering to people with little resistance is a dirty move, but no one seems willing to admit it.
They're not causing it. Those people would have found something else to fixate on, that's human nature, not magic coming from the teevee.
You just come off like you're looking for a way to rationalize your dislike.
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Your thinking that they need warnings for young boys specifically, and that it is making lazy men is sexist.
As many women play videogames as men. Most people who play videogames are fine. Some lazy people also do it. Lazy people also watch movies and TV.
Your posts just seem like those of a person who isn't keeping up. Like the people who claimed rock music would corrupt the youth back when it was getting started. It didn't.
While half the people who play videogames are women, they're terribly underrepresented in the medium and industry behind it. That is sexist, but it is slowly getting better. Videogames still have problems and I won't deny that, I just don't believe you gave any perfect examples to support your claim.
Well said, on all points.
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I consider video games to be just one of my many downfalls.....
I feel I'm justified. I'm not leaching off of anyone.
I have a girl at work who's trying really hard to make me her guy. I don't feel I'm leading her on. I enjoy her company, and I know it's driving her crazy that we haven't become more than friends yet.
She's got two kids though, and I know me. I'm at my best when I'm at work. Outside of work is spotty at best.
I don't want kids, and I don't want to have to listen to somebody else complain about their issues all day long.
I'm happy to offer her a safe place to hang out and relax and enjoy a few hours away from her hectic life once a week or so, but that's all this is.
She calls me at least 3 times a day now. She's a great girl, but the clingyness is reminding me of why I've been single and not looking for so long.
At the end of any given day, I'd rather be playing video games than raising kids or playing the good husband.
It is what it is...
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by NAVYSEILS:
While half the people who play videogames are women, they're terribly underrepresented in the medium and industry behind it. That is sexist, but it is slowly getting better.
I've never met a woman so addicted she didn't have a job. I've never met a woman who couldn't do ANYTHING but play. I HAVE seen many, many articles about guys who play until they literally DIE doing it. Yes, many women play, but it's MEN that get addicted.
I doubt there is a stat that even exists on this, or I could give you the numbers you all crave. What I do have IS WHAT I SEE. Sometimes it IS better than the numbers.
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Your observations on local kids and a few articles of fringe cases where people die (which have included women, both dying themselves and leaving children to die of neglect) do not make good evidence to support the claim. The articles also aim to make a good story, we probably don't have all the info.
These are a small part of a huge industry. It's bigger than Hollywood. These people would have got addicted to something else.
Changing the way videogames are made/sold/marketed off of the back of this would appear more like pandering to the minority in my opinion. I doubt you'll be swayed in your opinion, but everything I see suggests videogames are not the great evil you make them out to be.
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Cart before the Horse.
Wish says some (esp. men & boys) have become useless because of video games.
I call this escapism. A very common human indulgence, its roots in antiquity.
People don't escape because video games exist. Video games exist because
people want to escape.
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(which have included women, both dying themselves and leaving children to die of neglect)
These people would have got addicted to something else..
Exception that proves the rule!
And it's OK to ignore the problem, because they would be nuts anyway? So you can just write off whole populations of kids so you can rationalize YOUR addiction as being OK? That's what I'm getting here. Don't say it's bad because I don't want to think what I do may not be so ethical. How many people DID you virtually kill today? I don't know how we got to the point as a society where pretending to kill people for hours on end is a GOOD thing...
Hands up, how many people here ARE gaming addicted? How many of you would have withdrawal if it were taken away?
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Just as a totally unscientific comment...
I work in a lab with very well-educated, hardworking people, many of whom have teenage or slightly older children, and the lack of motivation in the boys is remarkable. They spend all day, literally, playing video games while their sisters or female cohorts are out playing soccer, winning scholarships for trips to Spain and South America or university placement, life-guarding or holding other responsible jobs while saving up for college. It's universal. There are six young woman and six young men in question, and it's like they're different species. I can't explain it, but it's very noticeable.
And it's not like "the dads" are uninvolved... one coaches soccer (including parallel coaching with his kids' teams), one was a Boy Scout leader until his boys made it past Eagle Scout, one works with his boys on homework and athletics. But once the parents are done pushing their boys, they veer straight back into videogames!
But I think it's more than that- this younger generation is general seems to feel "entitled". They spend a crap-ton of time on FB and Twitter, take selfies as if their lives didn't happen unless they didn't "share" it in some way.
I think electronics in general should be banned from children younger than eight, and strictly limited until 12. Kids need to experience life, in all of it's multi-sensorial complexity. They need time to get bored and then time to exercise their imaginations. They need to talk to others in real life, not be plugged into this sensorially -limited rapid-fire nonstop entertainment.
But that's just me, I'm a curmudgeon.
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Wishi: we don't demonize peanuts because some people have allergies. So yes, it is OK to ignore them with regards to the games. They need to be dealt with some other way.
What I'm getting here is "middle age person doesn't understand these kids today".
I wouldn't say I have an addiction I'm trying to rationalise. I play videogames. It's my favourite form of entertainment. I also have a degree and a good job and a perfectly normal social life that involves neither leeching from a girlfriend nor harming of others cause the big bad games made me do it. MOST people who play videogames will likely be the same. More are like me than like these examples you bring up.
I know many people my age and older who have had a lot of exposure to games. They're normal.
EDIT: maybe I got too on the defensive there. But I play many games and my experience and that of the many people I know who play games does not reflect your views. You notice the horror stories, because the people who play games and don't go wrong... They go unnoticed. You probably see loads of perfectly functional people who play games and you don't realise it.
But I'm not trying to say there are no problems. Like I said, the sexisim thing is kind of a big deal. I've saw that and my female friends have experienced it. That needs addressed. I just dont see your examples being a big problem, and I'll bet that I have more exposure to it than you do. I will admit that my position is not unbiased though.
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6IX - stayin in and playing games has to be a far better choice for you than gettin' loaded and driving somewhere.
Not saying YOU do that, but as a general rule, harder to get into trouble if you're in your own castle.
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