Another Unarmed Black Teen Killed
POSTED BY: SHINYGOODGUY
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 25, 2026 18:50
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
I know the belief of many is that the cops should not have released the video of Brown robbing the store. The cop did not know it at the time so it was irrelevant. It does go to show Browns mood just moments before he was approached by the cop. Also Brown had no way of knowing the cop did not know.
I think they should have released the video earlier. There's no logical reason why showing the actual true events prior to his encounter should enrage anyone. It's a nonsensical and illogical reaction. The only reason folks got upset is because it showed them what they wanted. They lashed out like children.
It doesn't matter that the cop didn't know, the point is that the video showed the state of mind of Brown, and how violent he had just been. So it was completely relevant.
Also, if Brown had just roughed up a store clerk,and stolen a bunch of cigars, then a cop rolls up on him , what's the first thing he's gonna think ? That the cop is responding to a robbery call, that's what.
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I am going to let this go for a while. My thing is more about why this keeps happening and what are the root causes. We really need a fix for this but I do not see that happening.
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
I am going to let this go for a while. My thing is more about why this keeps happening and what are the root causes. We really need a fix for this but I do not see that happening.
Stats say it doesn't happen all that much. Black males are FAR more in danger from other black males.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Well 6SJ,
Here's how I look at it.
It doesn't matter what the kid did, or if he was an asshole or not. Crossing against the light, shoplifting cigars, jaywalking, what have you.
Fact: He was unarmed
Many states recognize hands as lethal weapons. How many reasonable people would truly consider a 6'4" 300 pound criminal high on angel dust or whatever he was on to be unarmed? And the point of being compliant in the presense of and armed officer is to allow them to verify that you are NOT in possession of a weapon - if you don't comply, they must assume you are armed, and put you down.
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Fact: He was shot 6 times
Fact: The police are hired to keep the peace, arrest lawbreakers and bring them to justice.
Surely this is a reasonable argument - society needs police (this is in America, not some backwater theocracy) to arrest criminals, and those criminals who choose to commit more crimes by resisting arrest so they can continue to commit more crimes should be stopped at all costs.
I recall the times serial killers have been stopped amidst their sprees when officers did not adhere to commands to cease pursuit, only to find that the reason for fleeing was the corpse of the 26th victim was wrapped in carpet in the truck bed - would not have been stopped if we would just let all those criminals carry on if they don't feel like pulling over amidst the commission of a crime.
Good plan.
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Not to be judge, jury and executioner.
OOoops. Spoke too soon, poster went off the rails. Accidentally swerved into sensible thinking above, but now has returned to the quicksand of libtardity.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Normally, to attack, you need to be upright. The doctor stated that the fatal shots were the ones to the head. Those were definitely fired on a downward angle. Unless the officer got up on a ladder................
SGG
Are you clueless? Have you never, ever, heard to "keep your shoulders down" when charging an opponent? Any athlete chargin an opponent without their helmet and shoulders down will be beaten "at the line of scrimmage" in our popular sport, and will be taken off the starting roster. Why would somebody charge another running with upright posture, like a girl? Do you think he ran upright at the patrol car and attacked it with his knees? Even if the kid is a criminal, are you suggesting he was stupid to the point of retardation that would prompt him to attack a car with his knees? If not, then he likely had his shoulders down when he hit the car.
Come on, use a little sense.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
When being charged, assaulted, battered by thugs, once shooting commences there are not too many rules about stopping the shots, at least until the assailant stops. Many places have "no warning shots" rules - once a shot has been fired, it is to be fatal shots attempted. When Angel Dust thugs attack, they do not stop after an entire clip is unloded into them - and the cop has no way of knowing if a non-compliant assailant is in that state or not.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
officer recognized stolen items after stopping the kid.
saw The Rap mention that one.
Haven't seen that item ANYWHERE ELSE, and I've been looking for it. I'd REALLY like to verify that. Don't suppose you have a source for that item of "anecdotal evidence? And how does that square with the PD Chief himself saying that the officer did not know about the reported crime at the liquor store?
Did this cop just get an ESP flash--"Hey, those cigars look just like the ones in the crime report I'm gonna get in a few minutes." Temporal telekinesis, a new police tool...?
Not sure if your logic and curiosity have been satisfied since this post, or not.
I think I heard this on one of the following radio shows: Mark Levin or Dennis Miller (the previous evening) or Sean Hannity Show just prior to posting that reply. Sean has a website and a show on FNC as well, I think.
What I had understood was this:
The cop did not connect the black thug with the store theft at first, possibly because the shoplifting, having just taken place, had not been broadcast yet.
At some point during the incident, the cop either realized the thug had expensive cigars, or heard the broadcast of the recent shoplifting in the neighborhood, and noted the connection with the cigars in the hands of the thug.... er, um, unarmed teenage thug.
The Chief or whomever, stated the first part of the above, specifically in reference to a FOI request, which is usually handled (at the direction of some lawyer, like a Prosecuting Attorney) in the most non-effusive way, so as not to reveal too much of the case. The part about the non-connection was accurate AT THE BEGINNING of the interaction, but the Chief did not elaborate about the ensuing developments.
I'm not trying to confuse anything, but that was the way I recall what I had heard. Does that make sense to you?
Glad to know that you get your news from Sean Hannity, Dennis Miller, and Mark Levin, ( all EXTREMELY reliable, totally objective journalists-- NOT!.)by listening to it on the radio, rather than by READING it.
OK, so now you have made it clear that you were not really looking for the facts. Those 3 show hosts normally credit each of their sources, specifying who and where and when the information or quote came from. When you openly reject any facts or truth which don't conform to your model based solely on your opinion of the source, you lay bare your inherent bias. Yes, you got me - I was under the delusion you were genuinely in search of facts, data, truth, and so I provided you some helpful info (those shows are frequently available in recorded or transcribed form after their airing), albeit not as timely as you may have wanted. I suppose if I had claimed that CNN or Dan Blather had reported some actual unbiased, unfiltered news, you would have swallowed that wiener whole.
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This is no longer fun, but I will answer your post thusly:
Firstly, I played football, so I know about keeping low, I've done it a time or two when I was a kid. But this ain't football. Period.
And B, I laid out anyone I hit. Period.
SGG
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Normally, to attack, you need to be upright. The doctor stated that the fatal shots were the ones to the head. Those were definitely fired on a downward angle. Unless the officer got up on a ladder................
SGG
Are you clueless? Have you never, ever, heard to "keep your shoulders down" when charging an opponent? Any athlete chargin an opponent without their helmet and shoulders down will be beaten "at the line of scrimmage" in our popular sport, and will be taken off the starting roster. Why would somebody charge another running with upright posture, like a girl? Do you think he ran upright at the patrol car and attacked it with his knees? Even if the kid is a criminal, are you suggesting he was stupid to the point of retardation that would prompt him to attack a car with his knees? If not, then he likely had his shoulders down when he hit the car.
Come on, use a little sense.Quote:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
When being charged, assaulted, battered by thugs, once shooting commences there are not too many rules about stopping the shots, at least until the assailant stops. Many places have "no warning shots" rules - once a shot has been fired, it is to be fatal shots attempted. When Angel Dust thugs attack, they do not stop after an entire clip is unloded into them - and the cop has no way of knowing if a non-compliant assailant is in that state or not.
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1. Unarmed. Must I spell it out for you?
2. I made a clear enough statement. Cops arrest people, they are not "charged" with executing them at will. We are a nation of laws, unless you come from a "backwater theocracy" where you make up the rules as you go along.
The rest of your comments, I swat away like I would a gnat.
But, of course, you will continue to try and provoke.
Here's a scenario:
I'm a cop and I see you walking toward me. I pull my service revolver and blow your head off. According to your weak statements, I would be justified in the shooting because you were coming at me in a threatening manner. My shoot would be justified, merely because you assumed the "attack position"
That would be my story. According to you, I would walk away scott free.
That's about right, isn't it?
Law and Order!
SGG
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Well 6SJ,
Here's how I look at it.
It doesn't matter what the kid did, or if he was an asshole or not. Crossing against the light, shoplifting cigars, jaywalking, what have you.
Fact: He was unarmed
Many states recognize hands as lethal weapons. How many reasonable people would truly consider a 6'4" 300 pound criminal high on angel dust or whatever he was on to be unarmed? And the point of being compliant in the presense of and armed officer is to allow them to verify that you are NOT in possession of a weapon - if you don't comply, they must assume you are armed, and put you down.Quote:
Fact: He was shot 6 times
Fact: The police are hired to keep the peace, arrest lawbreakers and bring them to justice.
Surely this is a reasonable argument - society needs police (this is in America, not some backwater theocracy) to arrest criminals, and those criminals who choose to commit more crimes by resisting arrest so they can continue to commit more crimes should be stopped at all costs.
I recall the times serial killers have been stopped amidst their sprees when officers did not adhere to commands to cease pursuit, only to find that the reason for fleeing was the corpse of the 26th victim was wrapped in carpet in the truck bed - would not have been stopped if we would just let all those criminals carry on if they don't feel like pulling over amidst the commission of a crime.
Good plan.Quote:
Not to be judge, jury and executioner.
OOoops. Spoke too soon, poster went off the rails. Accidentally swerved into sensible thinking above, but now has returned to the quicksand of libtardity.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
1. Unarmed. Must I spell it out for you?
2. I made a clear enough statement. Cops arrest people, they are not "charged" with executing them at will. We are a nation of laws, unless you come from a "backwater theocracy" where you make up the rules as you go along.
The rest of your comments, I swat away like I would a gnat.
But, of course, you will continue to try and provoke.
Anyone know why a cop carries a gun? It's not to protect the public, but to protect THEMSELVES.
Armed or unarmed, it doesn't matter. If a cop is being attacked ( in this case, by a 6'4" 300lb male ) and suffers a broken socket from the conflict, things have just gotten real.
There was no ' execution at will ' here. There was a scuffle, a physical altercation, leading up to the shooting.
Those are the facts. Did the cop justifiably use his weapon ? Don't know yet. IS there any scenario where a cop could have used his weapon, vs an unarmed assailant ? Not in the best case scenario, but guess what ? This is the REAL WORLD. So the answer to that is, yes, there are times where use of such force is justifiable. Ignoring all the myths and hysteria that's been fabricated about this case, the hard cold truth is, sometimes a cop is allowed to defend himself.
More info needs to come out, but as of now, there's at least reasonable doubt, in my mind, that the cop MAY have acted correctly.
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
I am going to let this go for a while. My thing is more about why this keeps happening and what are the root causes. We really need a fix for this but I do not see that happening.
Stats say it doesn't happen all that much. Black males are FAR more in danger from other black males.
You must not be reading my posts. I mention the number is over 90%.
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