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Another Unarmed Black Teen Killed

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AURAPTOR

Thursday, August 21, 2014 4:01 AM

Ever try shooting at a charging thug who has just broken your eye socket ?

My guess is that it's probably pretty tough to do, hold a gun and aim like that.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, August 21, 2014 4:11 AM

When being charged, assaulted, battered by thugs, once shooting commences there are not too many rules about stopping the shots, at least until the assailant stops. Many places have "no warning shots" rules - once a shot has been fired, it is to be fatal shots attempted. When Angel Dust thugs attack, they do not stop after an entire clip is unloded into them - and the cop has no way of knowing if a non-compliant assailant is in that state or not.

THGRRI

Thursday, August 21, 2014 5:04 AM

NOBC

I poste all day with you and not once did you answer what I posted but instead just keep your responses petty. I stayed on topic and concise. I see that created a problem for you.

I will respond back if you decide to address what I posted today.

AURAPTOR

Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:36 AM

Ya know what ? Since the security video, the autopsy, the multiple eye witnesses, and then the revelations that the cop had a busted eye socket, it seems many of the usual suspects have grown mute.

Wonder why.

THGRRI

Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:44 AM

I don't want to make a prediction. There are clearly no winners here.

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:22 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

..., and then the revelations that the cop had a busted eye socket

So the cop pulls up to Brown so close that he can't get out of his car; so close that Brown is able to push him back inside, pound on his face, and then a struggle for the gun ensues? So then, after getting his ass kicked, the cop recovers enough to try again to confront Brown? And all this is done without waiting for backup or even having a dash cam on?

He must be either the worst-trained cop in history or the dumbest cop in history.

SHINYGOODGUY

Thursday, August 21, 2014 12:47 PM

Well 6SJ,

Here's how I look at it.

It doesn't matter what the kid did, or if he was an asshole or not. Crossing against the light, shoplifting cigars, jaywalking, what have you.

Fact: He was unarmed

Fact: He was shot 6 times

Fact: The police are hired to keep the peace, arrest lawbreakers and bring them to justice. Not to be judge, jury and executioner.

It has been reported that the officer suffered a broken eye socket, supposedly at the hands of the kid, I don't feel that it is a sufficient enough reason to shoot someone 6 times. If someone punches you in the face, you punch them back, not pull out a howitzer and start blasting. Remember he is an officer of the law and represents the county and state, and the will of the people (okay that last part is a little corny).

Add to that the fact, as reported by the Police Chief, that he didn't know that this kid was anything but a kid "jaywalking" down the middle of the street, so he had no other reason than being annoyed he was illegally walking down the street. Which makes this even more disturbing because he shot a kid over the most asinine reason ever - he was jaywalking. Words were exchanged, obviously, and the result a cop loses it and empties a clip on a dumb kid who didn't know enough to shut up.

So what was the state of mind of the cop as he chased this kid down the street? What possessed him to shoot him twice in the head? A punch to the face, is that what made him freak and blow him away? Did he call for back up? Once he was on the ground, why did he keep shooting after wounding him?
On the surface, it was not a justifiable shoot. Not one cop, not the police chief, not anyone has made that claim. They're not even claiming self defense.

4 miles up the road, the county police there shot and killed and armed, and slightly crazed, black man who was wielding a knife. Justifiable? Absolutely. The police chief of that jurisdiction came out and gave a full account of his officer's actions. No cover up, just the facts as they were given to him. Full disclosure, although preliminary, but nonetheless immediate full disclosure.

If the Ferguson officer was assaulted, then Brown should have been arrested and tried for assault. Not shot 6 times. Especially since he was unarmed.

The autopsy was inconclusive.

Fact: We still don't have the DNA evidence from the officers gun. That will show if Brown laid hands on the gun in the struggled.

Fact: The officer's report, where is it?

Fact: Why did the police chief have him hide if he acted within the law?

It reminds me of the OJ trial. If he was innocent why did he run in the white Bronco?

Stands to reason that if it was a good shoot, he would stand tall and say Yeah, I shot him for this reason!

SGG

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
On Saturday, Michael Brown, 18, was shot by a police officer in Ferguson, a suburb of St. Louis. The Ferguson Police Department has asserted that Brown assaulted the officer, whose name has not yet been released. Eyewitnesses, however, have disputed that claim and said Brown was killed while attempting to surrender or flee.
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Funny thing is that if the police account is true, then the cop who shot him is a hero and why wouldn't they release his name? After all he did attack a police officer with his bare hands, in a moving vehicle with an armed officer of the "law."

Shot him multiple times, and even shot him in the back, according to witness accounts.

SGG

Maybe getting over the 300 post hump made me have to at least click on this link....

It's very sad. I do believe that Rappy is right and an autopsy will make the right conclusions if it's all done properly.... and I hope to God that given how prevalent this case seems to be to the public that it is all done by the book for everyone involved.

I'm really hop

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SHINYGOODGUY

Thursday, August 21, 2014 1:07 PM

Totally agree with you.

When an officer is "being charged, assaulted, battered by thugs, once shooting commences there are not too many rules about stopping the shots, at least until the assailant stops."

But usually when someone is running away, it's kind of hard to attack.
Still though, if there was a struggle, the cop had to be feared for his life, not afraid of getting his ass handed to him by a 6' 4" "thug".

Call for back-up.

During the autopsy report the doctor said that there was no gunpowder residue on the victim's clothes, which means that the shots were fired from more than 3 feet. Plus the shots entered Brown's body on a downward angle, indicating that Brown was either squatting or on the street.

Normally, to attack, you need to be upright. The doctor stated that the fatal shots were the ones to the head. Those were definitely fired on a downward angle. Unless the officer got up on a ladder................

SGG

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
When being charged, assaulted, battered by thugs, once shooting commences there are not too many rules about stopping the shots, at least until the assailant stops. Many places have "no warning shots" rules - once a shot has been fired, it is to be fatal shots attempted. When Angel Dust thugs attack, they do not stop after an entire clip is unloded into them - and the cop has no way of knowing if a non-compliant assailant is in that state or not.

AURAPTOR

Thursday, August 21, 2014 6:17 PM

When an officer is attacked, and damn near incapacitated, ( broken eye sockets tend to do that ) his first priority is no longer to defend and protect the thug attacking him, but to remain alive.

In a perfect world, there'd be a happy middle ground, where a cop could only subdue an attacker, w/ out the use of lethal force. Tasers work, " usually ", but in the flash of a moment where the cop may have been caught off guard at the viciousness of the attack, while in severe pain himself, this homicide may very well have been justified.

At the very least, the myth that this cop "executed " a young black man who had given up and was raising his hands in surrender seems to be the stuff of pure fiction, and no where near the truth.

THGRRI

Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:52 PM

Yeah, I am guilty of calling Brown a kid many times myself. He was in fact a 6'4" 300 pound male. One of the witnesses initially said the cop tried to pull Brown into the squad car through the window. This was the first statement that raised suspicions for me.

I know the belief of many is that the cops should not have released the video of Brown robbing the store. The cop did not know it at the time so it was irrelevant. It does go to show Browns mood just moments before he was approached by the cop. Also Brown had no way of knowing the cop did not know.