Another Unarmed Black Teen Killed
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I am not saying the cops are not overstepping their authority. What I am saying is that the press know exactly how to go about getting themselves arrested.
for accuracy, I snipped some here. Irrelevant stuff-- NOBC
What he did was so obvious it was an are you kidding me moment.
And these professional police officers aren't trained to recognize provocation by people they encounter? Especially obvious provocation? And aren't trained in how to deal with unco-operative citizens who are asserting their own personal constitutional rights? And aren't taught the legal limits on their (police officers') power and authority?
Oh, yeah, I forgot-- this IS in Ferguson Missouri. They are taught how to do that stuff down there... Beat 'em with your nightstick. Gas 'em. SHOOT 'em. Handcuff 'em and arrest 'em, and then haul 'em to the station. Where their superiors, who ARE BETTER trained, dismiss the charges and let 'em go, because they know about the court rulings that say that police officers DON'T have the right to do that. And because the superiors know about the lawsuits that will be filed, and won, and upheld, because those are settled matters of legal precedent; and know about how much those lawsuits WILL COST, in fighting , and after they're lost, in settlement payouts.
Yes they see it for what it is. Does that mean they let the person stay in a restaurant they are trying to close? Or continue to be belligerent? Or do they take him out forcible, meaning under arrest? What they do is arrest the person. Then the next day watch how they denied the reporter or whomever their rights plastered all over the news. Watch how they are portrayed as out of control. Which is exactly what the reporter did. Whenever a reporter becomes the story, 99% of the time it is lousy reporting from lousy reporter.
It is about sectionalism. A tendency to be more concerned with the interests of your particular group or region than with the problems and interests of the larger group, country, etc. In other words, stirring up the pot to gain ratings. Things are bad enough without creating false images due to your own behavior while reporting the news.
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I am not saying the cops are not overstepping their authority.
ANd then you spend the rest of the post doing exactly that.
What happened when the cops and reporters got to the station? What did the superior officers do? Pretty much exactly what I said they did, didn't they? Dismissed the charges and let the reporters go? Did they publicly apologize for being wrong and in violation of the reporters' rights YET ?
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"Even though it might sound harsh and impolitic, here is the bottom line: if you don’t want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you," he writes. "Don’t argue with me, don’t call me names, don’t tell me that I can’t stop you, don’t say I’m a racist pig, don’t threaten that you’ll sue me and take away my badge. Don’t scream at me that you pay my salary, and don’t even think of aggressively walking towards me. Most field stops are complete in minutes. How difficult is it to cooperate for that long?"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/19/sunil-dutta-police-washington
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For too many it is impossible. I my self was slammed to the ground and pummeled by 6 cops. I was the one in the wrong that caused it. They were wrong in their response to my behavior. Shit happens when emotions run high. When a cop says do something like stand their and be quite for a moment, then do it. It is not time for a debate. If that were done more often, then maybe police stops would become cops waving high when you pass.
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
"Even though it might sound harsh and impolitic, here is the bottom line: if you don’t want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you," he writes. "Don’t argue with me, don’t call me names, don’t tell me that I can’t stop you, don’t say I’m a racist pig, don’t threaten that you’ll sue me and take away my badge. Don’t scream at me that you pay my salary, and don’t even think of aggressively walking towards me. Most field stops are complete in minutes. How difficult is it to cooperate for that long?"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/19/sunil-dutta-police-washington
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For too many it is impossible.
Are you one of those Constitutionalists? Tea Partier, like JSF or Rap? Libertarian? Maybe you can show me in the Constitution, or the Bill of Rights, where a free citizen is required to do any of those things. Because it ain't in there. Ain't in the law or the court rulings. Oh, yeah, you suggested in another post that the law isn't important if you're a cop? ( Forgive me, that's "anecdotal." I can probably go back and find the post and document exactly what you wrote, if I want to work at it hard enough? Or maybe you'd care to find the post I'm "anecdotally" referring to? Maybe I heard it on the radio-- mighta been Hannity, or Beck, or El Rusho.
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Nope Fern not the reason. Stop pretending you understand the street
First off, maybe you oughtta stop calling him FERN. Give him some respect, asshole. He goes by the screen name FREM. And don't pull some crap about being dislexic or some shit like that. Either quit being malicious or learn to read and type.
Hey, THUG, did you ever respond to this one? Maybe that was another one of your spelling errors, only you spelled it wrong in several posts?
'Cuz if you did, I missed it.
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….Bcoat
Are you one of those Constitutionalists? Tea Partier, like JSF or Rap? Libertarian? Maybe you can show me in the Constitution, or the Bill of Rights, where a free citizen is required to do any of those things. Because it ain't in there. Ain't in the law or the court rulings. Oh, yeah, you suggested in another post that the law isn't important if you're a cop? ( Forgive me, that's "anecdotal." I can probably go back and find the post and document exactly what you wrote, if I want to work at it hard enough? Or maybe you'd care to find the post I'm "anecdotally" referring to? Maybe I heard it on the radio-- mighta been Hannity, or Beck, or El Rusho.
First you have a few grammatical and spelling errors. Perhaps you should check my spelling with a spell checker rather than rely on your spelling skills? Perhaps you think I misspelled a word and instead it is a word that is not in your vocabulary so you think it is something it is not? Second I am an independent who believes Republicans have gone crazy and Tea Partiers are nuts. Libertarians are very limited in scope as far as the world goes, and are more likely to vote against anything that helps minorities or the population in general. I don’t care for their views either. I don’t really listen to them much. I guess I should listen more so I can pin down how they are in effect separatists that do not see the country as a collective.
I actually thought the name was Fern. It is one of those things that I saw the first time and never looked back. I would point out the name caller in this thread is you. Care to go back and look at your posts as apposed to mine?
Why don't you try addressing what I post rather than the misspelling of a word. I have made two or three posts that you have responded to without touching on what I said. Only how I said it.
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Hey Rap,
The quote below is NOT mine, you got me confused with someone else:
SGG
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And we're supposed to buy that shit from Breitbart, the same shitheads who posted a pic of a protestor throwing a tear gas grenade BACK at the cops while insisting it was a fuckin molotov ?
Riiiiight.
And apparently you missed EC's relevant post earlier, with cite from CCNews.
You dismiss Breitbart, but then go on to cite CCN ? ROFLMAO !!!!
Man, talk about being a total conspiracy nutjob !
I doubt very much there was any " insisting " of anything, as you claim. Molotov cocktails were thrown. If some intern misidentified an object being thrown in a photo, does that mean the event didn't take place ?
Who the hell is CCN ? One of PN's rivals ?
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so folks need to chill the hell out and back off before they start making more baseless accusations.
[i/]You should follow your own advice, methinks![i/]
SGG
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And another thing...
No one is suggesting that even with young Michael having roughed up the store clerk and stealing $ 50.00 worth of cheap cigars did he DESERVED to die.
There still is the matter of what exactly took place when he encountered the cop.
The cop didn't know M.B. was a suspect, but because M.B. had just committed a strong arm robbery, he likely DID assume the cop was coming after him.
So far, the claims that the cop shot M.B. in the back have proven false. Makes one wonder what ELSE some have claimed took place didn't happen either.
That STILL does not clear the cop of being accused of 2nd degree murder, or what ever the charge he gets. And yes, I do expect something to happen to the cop, as the case proceeds.
Whether a hardened criminal or a choir boy, I still haven't seen evidence which justifies M.B. being on the receiving end of 6 + shots fired by the cop.
WAS he trying to wrestle the gun away from the officer ? IF that's found to be the case, then sadly , it may be the tragic conclusion of some really poor judgements made by a young man that day, resulting in his death.
Tox results still have to come in too, so folks need to chill the hell out and back off before they start making more baseless accusations.
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All the witnesses said the cop shot him in the back. How is it all the witness saw him shot in the back?
They didn't. They were LYING.
I wish this site had a thing in the quote feature to time and date stamp the original post. would make it easier to find them.
I thought of this post this morning when we were discussing the pro-police eyewitnesses. I suggested that they should be given the same weight as the pro-Brown ones RAp had been rejecting. Figgered he was gonna claim he never did that. Aug 17, 12:14 AM , this one was.
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I see Bcoat you are still not going to address the content of my posts. Have a problem with trying to show it is wrong? Or that some how I am a bigot as 1kiki suggested. I deal in reality not political correctness.
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….Bcoat
Are you one of those Constitutionalists? Tea Partier, like JSF or Rap? Libertarian? Maybe you can show me in the Constitution, or the Bill of Rights, where a free citizen is required to do any of those things. Because it ain't in there. Ain't in the law or the court rulings. Oh, yeah, you suggested in another post that the law isn't important if you're a cop? ( Forgive me, that's "anecdotal." I can probably go back and find the post and document exactly what you wrote, if I want to work at it hard enough? Or maybe you'd care to find the post I'm "anecdotally" referring to? Maybe I heard it on the radio-- mighta been Hannity, or Beck, or El Rusho.
First you have a few grammatical and spelling errors. Perhaps you should check my spelling with a spell checker rather than rely on your spelling skills? Perhaps you think I misspelled a word and instead it is a word that is not in your vocabulary so you think it is something it is not? Second I am an independent who believes Republicans have gone crazy and Tea Partiers are nuts. Libertarians are very limited in scope as far as the world goes, and are more likely to vote against anything that helps minorities or the population in general. I don’t care for their views either. I don’t really listen to them much. I guess I should listen more so I can pin down how they are in effect separatists that do not see the country as a collective.
I actually thought the name was Fern. It is one of those things that I saw the first time and never looked back. I would point out the name caller in this thread is you. Care to go back and look at your posts as apposed to mine?
Why don't you try addressing what I post rather than the misspelling of a word. I have made two or three posts that you have responded to without touching on what I said. Only how I said it.
You might notice that I've been polite or apologized to folks I respect. I try to, with folks like that. Sometimes even when I knew they wouldn't care, but my sense of rightness suggested that I had been unfair or inaccurate with them.
MAybe you'd care to respond to the main point of my post Or is answering questions something you don't do?
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