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Another Unarmed Black Teen Killed

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:26 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Change is hard and it means getting up off your knees.
This is like that self-help pablum that they smear on the sick.

What poor neighborhoods need is JOBS. Poor neighborhoods are not about to re-create an entire economy in miniature, independent from the economy that they're embedded in.

So what the militarized police do... what their REAL function is... is to keep the poor folk bottled up in option-less situations in their poor neighborhoods so that wealthy folk can continue to enjoy their safe and comfortable lives.


No, instead of the militarized police, that is the job of the likes of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, NAACP. Just ask Trader Joe's. They must keep their fellow blacks subjugated and penned in the poor neighborhoods to maintain their lifestyle of wealth from race-baiting. This is why they insist upon keeping the jobs out of the areas, and looting, rioting, and burning any business (AKA employer) that dares to defy them.

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:36 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
Similar assessment to the whole Zimmerman/Martin issue.

-Frem


Really? You mean the kid was high on weed? Carrying burglary tools? attempting to kill an armed non-black person? (OK, I'll give you that one for now, as well as possessing stolen property) Habitual repetitive criminal delinquent?
Just like Trevon Martin?
I had not yet heard all those facts come out.


OK, you got me.
At that point in time, the facts of Michael Brown also being a habitual criminal, also high on weed, also an enormous thug, just like Trevon Martin, had not come out yet - clearly your sources were better than the rest of us. With the other admitted similarities of both of them trying to assault or kill an armed non-black person, and possessing freshly stolen property, it does appear to have a great many similarities between Trevon Martin and Michael Brown.

Wait a minute - why have we not seen pictures of Michael Brown from 5 years ago when he was an adorable 100-pound cute dreamy punk, just like we got with Trevon?

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:53 AM

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And meanwhile, according to the FBI crime stats, blacks COMMIT far more crime, violent crime, over all by % than any other group.

Everyone just LOVES to talk about how badly blacks are treated by the cops, but no one wants to deal w/ the elephant in the room, that blacks commit far more than " their fair share " of crime in the first place.

Cause and effect, hon.

I know that blacks are arrested and charged with more crimes, I'm not sure that they actually commit more.



When the policing is color-blind, I'll look at the stats, but right now they're tainted.


OH, come on.
This may be true in your local neighborhood, but I see as a matter of routine when the cops regularly nickel and dime every white person they can find making piddly violations of ordinance, while wholesale active blindly allowing black perpetrators to run rampant. Expecting minorities to behave, obey the law, or pay fines or show up for court appearances is not worth all the lawsuits and pre-emptory settlements they have to deal with. (it seems asians in respectable cars don't have this problem)
This is also why so many assumed Obamination would violate every law he could read, and thus were all proven right.

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:56 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:



It's those several million bad cops that really make the other seven look bad.



Cite ?


Quote of the week.

Thanks for that.

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:16 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Ut oh...

'more than a dozen people have backed up Ferguson officer's story'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2728772/Second-friend-cop-shot
-dead-Michael-Brown-comes-defense-say-s-quiet-respectful-guy.html



Hey NOBC !!! Does this count ?

I know it's not exactly what I was posting , but the fact that the story is being backed up by MULTIPLE witnesses leads credence to my prior post.

Brown was the aggressor, and the cop acted in self defense.

That's not ME saying that, but the story from many who claim they saw it, and the story ( allegedly ) that the cop himself has given.




Well, haven't looked at your link, so I can't say what's in it, BUT, yep it backs his story. Almost exactly as much as the bunch of witnesses that back Mike Brown's side, the ones that YOU keep rejecting.

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:31 PM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:


Yes this is true and why people who rely on statistics alone are misguided. They look at those and shout prof, prof.






Ah, yes, those poor misguided people. They read those facts and hallucinate that they're in college somewhere. So they raise their hand and start trying to get the attention of the professor.


Learn to spell, dumbass. Turn your spell checker on. Learn to proof-read your stuff. Errors like that make you look EVEN MORE ignorant.




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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:48 PM

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Originally posted by second:


If all the blacks in Ferguson can stay focused for years, and vote in every municipal election, then good can come out of this. But if not, then not.



I find if contradictory, not of you, Second, but in general, that only 12% of eligible black voters actually vote, but that white Republicans are so worried about someone in that 12 % committing voter fraud that they pass voter I.D laws, which die-enfranchise even more poor people, over a problem for which there seems to be very little evidence.

Also that the legislators elected by those who do vote continue to gerrymander the districts so as to dilute the power of any voter bloc except white Republicans.

Also that every time there's a voter registration drive, it's Dems operating it and Republicans opposing it.

Also that the US Supreme Court declared the Voting Rights Act unconstitutional, and unnecessary, because racism no longer is a problem in America.

Maybe so many black voters are so discouraged about voting in a system so stacked against them that they're GUARANTEED to lose, that they stopped participating.

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:07 PM

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officer recognized stolen items after stopping the kid.



saw The Rap mention that one.

Haven't seen that item ANYWHERE ELSE, and I've been looking for it. I'd REALLY like to verify that. Don't suppose you have a source for that item of "anecdotal evidence? And how does that square with the PD Chief himself saying that the officer did not know about the reported crime at the liquor store?

Did this cop just get an ESP flash--"Hey, those cigars look just like the ones in the crime report I'm gonna get in a few minutes." Temporal telekinesis, a new police tool...?


Not sure if your logic and curiosity have been satisfied since this post, or not.

I think I heard this on one of the following radio shows: Mark Levin or Dennis Miller (the previous evening) or Sean Hannity Show just prior to posting that reply. Sean has a website and a show on FNC as well, I think.

What I had understood was this:
The cop did not connect the black thug with the store theft at first, possibly because the shoplifting, having just taken place, had not been broadcast yet.
At some point during the incident, the cop either realized the thug had expensive cigars, or heard the broadcast of the recent shoplifting in the neighborhood, and noted the connection with the cigars in the hands of the thug.... er, um, unarmed teenage thug.

The Chief or whomever, stated the first part of the above, specifically in reference to a FOI request, which is usually handled (at the direction of some lawyer, like a Prosecuting Attorney) in the most non-effusive way, so as not to reveal too much of the case. The part about the non-connection was accurate AT THE BEGINNING of the interaction, but the Chief did not elaborate about the ensuing developments.

I'm not trying to confuse anything, but that was the way I recall what I had heard. Does that make sense to you?




You MAY NOTE, if you read it, that I found and posted a documented source for YOUR " anecdotal " story on Aug 19 at 10:46 AM.

Glad to know that you get your news from Sean Hannity, Dennis Miller, and Mark Levin, ( all EXTREMELY reliable, totally objective journalists-- NOT!.)by listening to it on the radio, rather than by READING it.

The greatest virtue to WRITTEN journalism, on paper or even online, is that it CAN record a journalist's statements in a manner that can be re-accessed later, accurately, for validation or correction. Instead of being "anecdotal" As in, " I heard it on the radio somewhere, sometime, by ONE of these guys. "

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:28 PM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:


I am not saying the cops are not overstepping their authority. What I am saying is that the press know exactly how to go about getting themselves arrested.

for accuracy, I snipped some here. Irrelevant stuff-- NOBC

What he did was so obvious it was an are you kidding me moment.




And these professional police officers aren't trained to recognize provocation by people they encounter? Especially obvious provocation? And aren't trained in how to deal with unco-operative citizens who are asserting their own personal constitutional rights? And aren't taught the legal limits on their (police officers') power and authority?

Oh, yeah, I forgot-- this IS in Ferguson Missouri. They are taught how to do that stuff down there... Beat 'em with your nightstick. Gas 'em. SHOOT 'em. Handcuff 'em and arrest 'em, and then haul 'em to the station. Where their superiors, who ARE BETTER trained, dismiss the charges and let 'em go, because they know about the court rulings that say that police officers DON'T have the right to do that. And because the superiors know about the lawsuits that will be filed, and won, and upheld, because those are settled matters of legal precedent; and know about how much those lawsuits WILL COST, in fighting , and after they're lost, in settlement payouts.


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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:37 PM

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/18/hedy-epstein-arrested-ferguso
n-holocaust-_n_5689822.html



About as easy a collar as the cops could hope for.



Yep, saw a picture of this. 2 beefy looking young local policewomen handling this 80 year old woman by the elbows because they've got her hands secured behind her back.

I'm sure the policewomen were in fear of their lives. The little old lady might have been a terrorist. I'm surprised they weren't wearing helmets and body armor, and didn't have their weapons drawn for protection against this "threat".

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