Another Unarmed Black Teen Killed
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Frem's Counter current News ( CCN ) isn't a typo for CNN.
Try to keep up.
And since you KNEW that, you ask who the hell they are? Oh, you were just being a wise ass. I'm caught up now.
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NOBC
What happened with the cigars may have been the altercation that prompted a customer to call 911. And if the store person threw them at the two young men then he would have been guilty of assault. That makes it understandable that he didn't call the police.
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AH, found it. Another version of the story that never stops changing, this one from Aug 15, and USAToday, the paragon of quality journalism.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/usanow/2014/08/15/ferguson-missouri
-police-michael-brown-shooting/14098369/
Chief: Officer noticed Brown carrying suspected stolen cigars
Yamiche Alcindor, Marisol Bello and Aamer Madhani, USA TODAY 9:50 p.m. EDT August 15, 2014
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FERGUSON, Mo. — Michael Brown was identified as a suspect in a strong-arm robbery of a box of cigars moments before he was shot to death by Officer Darren Wilson, police said Friday.
In an afternoon press conference, Ferguson, Mo. Police Chief Thomas Jackson said Wilson did not initially make a connection between the robbery and Brown,whose death spurred violent protests and unrest in the St. Louis suburb over the past week.
Wilson stopped Brown and a friend because "they were in the middle of the street, blocking traffic," Jackson said.
Hours later, however, Jackson told a slightly different story to CNN and NBC, saying that Wilson noticed Brown was carrying a box of cigars that had been reported stolen. Wilson, he said, initially stopped Brown for blocking traffic, but as he began driving past Brown, he noticed Brown was holding cigars.
At that point, Wilson "made the connection" that Brown might have been involved in a theft that had just been broadcast on police radio, Jackson said.
Jackson earlier released Wilson's name along with information that Brown was a suspect in the previous robbery. He said he released surveillance video tape and documents related to the robbery to satisfy freedom of information requests from the public.
His decision to release both bits of information at the same time has come under fire by residents and Brown supporters who said the police were trying to divert attention away from Wilson and justify the shooting by blaming Brown.
Jackson would not say why he released the information when he did the way he did, other than to say he was responding to freedom of information requests from the public about the robbery.
Benjamin Crump, an attorney for Brown's family, told USA TODAY the release of the officer's name alongside a robbery report naming Brown as a suspect "smoke and mirrors."
"There was nothing based on the facts that have been placed before us that would justify this execution style murder by this police officer in broad daylight," Crump said. "It's not enough that they assassinated him in broad daylight in the middle of the street. They also have to assassinate his character to try to get away with it."
He said police were trying to divert the public's attention from the crux of the issue. He added that police only releasing photos of the robbery suspect and not Wilson shows that the department will not be transparent.
He said Brown's family believes the police strategically waited to release the officer's name to justify the fatal shooting.
This was 5 days ago, before the chief denied that Mike Brown was a suspect.
Seems that, miraculously, the police report came over the radio in the few seconds between when the stopped the 2 guys walking in the street, "blocking traffic", and when Brown attacked.
I'm sure Ferguson tapes its police dept radio traffic, so can provide a tape of the broadcast, with time stamp.
E-T-A, I forgot this point: And I'm sure Ferguson's records are so good that it's right there on the incident report, right after the part where it says, " Officer shot a member of the black community, several times," , it says " Inventory of evidence on the corpse, 1 box of cigars, value $50, " Or it will, if they ever release the complete original document, the one that's part of the public, legal record. Or if not, maybe somebody can get it via the Freedom of Information ACT, like they did the officer's name, and the video tape. 'Course that may be 40 or 50 y
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I'm sure Ferguson tapes its police dept radio traffic, so can provide a tape of the broadcast, with time stamp.
Some of it at the dispatch end has already been released, via Anonymous.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/anonymous-releases-st-loui
s-police-dispatch-tapes
The officer in question didn't even inform his own superiors of the events initially and they had to hear about it from the freakin news, mind you.
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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
I'm sure Ferguson tapes its police dept radio traffic, so can provide a tape of the broadcast, with time stamp.
Some of it at the dispatch end has already been released, via Anonymous.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/anonymous-releases-st-loui
s-police-dispatch-tapes
The officer in question didn't even inform his own superiors of the events initially and they had to hear about it from the freakin news, mind you.
-F
thanx for that first bit. I knew about that second part from that link of yours about the dumbest chief in the USA. Thanx for that also, BTW. I enjoyed reading it, great for laughs.
And what kind of PD anywhere in the USA does an officer KILL someone, and not radio it it to HQ anyway? Besides Ferguson...
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Quote:Missouri opinion was divided about black slavery, which lead to some very colorful history during the Civil War. To this very day Missourians are still having divided opinions about blacks, which is leading to some more colorful history in Ferguson. There are a lot of opinions on this website that express too much certainty about who is guilty of what crime, but there are some more factoids that I do know are true:
Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
2 points, not necessarily arguin' with you :
Ferguson’s elected officials are of a much different racial makeup than its population. In 2001, Ferguson was a majority African American city with zero African Americans on the city council. Ferguson has gained one African American city council member since then (17 percent of the council), but its African American population has increased to 67 percent. – http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/08/19/why-is-fergusons-government-
so-white/
All white juries are 16% more likely to convict black defendants than white defendants but the presence of just a single black person in the jury pool equalizes conviction rates by race. The effect is large and remarkably it occurs even when the black person is not picked for the jury. The latter may not seem possible but the authors develop an elegant model of voir dire that shows how using up a veto on a black member of the pool shifts the characteristics of remaining pool members from which the lawyers must pick; that is, a diverse jury pool can make for a more “ideologically” balanced jury even when the jury is not racially balanced. –- http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2014/08/the-impact-of
-jury-race-in-criminal-trials.html
I hope there is a trial for Policeman Darren Wilson. If a grand jury no bills Wilson, there will be plenty of awful Missouri history made.
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Ut oh...
'more than a dozen people have backed up Ferguson officer's story'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2728772/Second-friend-cop-shot
-dead-Michael-Brown-comes-defense-say-s-quiet-respectful-guy.html
Hey NOBC !!! Does this count ?
I know it's not exactly what I was posting , but the fact that the story is being backed up by MULTIPLE witnesses leads credence to my prior post.
Brown was the aggressor, and the cop acted in self defense.
That's not ME saying that, but the story from many who claim they saw it, and the story ( allegedly ) that the cop himself has given.
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Ferguson’s elected officials are of a much different racial makeup than its population. In 2001, Ferguson was a majority African American city with zero African Americans on the city council. Ferguson has gained one African American city council member since then (17 percent of the council), but its African American population has increased to 67 percent. – http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/08/19/why-is-fergusons-government-
Yes this is true and why people who rely on statistics alone are misguided. They look at those and shout prof, prof. I keep hearing this fact used to point to another (o so obvious) injustice perpetrated by whites on the African American community. Something Al Sharpton said while addressing the people of Ferguson tells the truth of why that is. 12% of Fergusons eligible black voters actually vote. 12%, how the hell are you going to get the job if you don’t apply? How are you going to improve your station in life if you do not show up? It takes and effort to effect change and this is what needs to change. Sharpton recognizes this today and has changed his approach in these situations. He is beginning to point out some of the community’s culpability. This is what’s needed. Not the lefts continued excuse making for the behaviors within black communities.
I have been sitting back watching as all the jump to conclusions posters have shown their lack of depth and their inability to sort through the hype. I even noticed where 1kiki turned the store incident with the kid stealing the cigars into a, maybe it is the store owners fault. Implying it may be because the store owner threw the cigars at the two kids that he did not call 911.
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I hope there is a trial for Policeman Darren Wilson. If a grand jury no bills Wilson, there will be plenty of awful Missouri history made.
There probably will be a trial but I am not sure. I will tell you that I keep hearing of a cover up. That they won’t release the facts of the shootings. If a good and true investigation is being conducted you will not see the facts released as they are discovered. The reason for this is because the physical facts left behind by the incident are compared to the eye witness statements. They do this to establish the credibility of the witness. If they make public the physical evidence as it is determined, the witnesses will start mimicking what they read in the press or heard reported.
As I said earlier, I would not trust what the witnesses said because of their affiliation with the community and its established grievances against the police department as a whole. We need the facts to bear them out first.
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All white juries are 16% more likely to convict black defendants than white defendants but the presence of just a single black person in the jury pool equalizes conviction rates by race. The effect is large and remarkably it occurs even when the black person is not picked for the jury. The latter may not seem possible but the authors develop an elegant model of voir dire that shows how using up a veto on a black member of the pool shifts the characteristics of remaining pool members from which the lawyers must pick; that is, a diverse jury pool can make for a more “ideologically” balanced jury even when the jury is not racially balanced. –- http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2014/08/the-impact-of
-jury-race-in-criminal-trials.html
FAR out! Every day I learn something, and I'm an old fart. Never seen or heard that one before, but it surely makes sense. I can see the whole mechanism clearly in my mind. Thanx for today's lesson.
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