Another Unarmed Black Teen Killed
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Nobc - siding with the rule of law, not tolerating looting & violent robbery can't be painted as being " racist ", at any time. Because it isn't. Suggesting such does the opposite of unifying everyone.
And, yep, let's unify everyone. Didn't Adolph Shickelgruber have a similar plan? Didn't he deal with a whole bunch of folks for not being "unified"? Unified 'em right into the graveyards and crematoriums, didn't he? Nothin' much more unified that a whole bunch of dead folks.
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" Now, tell me , Dr. Quincy, what does that suggest, forensically, about the positions and actions of the police officer and the deceased at the moment of the shooting?"In the eye, out the jaw, and in the collarbone? No powder burns?
1) Shot from a distance, not in a close-quarter struggle?
2)That unless the bullet ricocheted off a bone - which it sometimes does- wouldn't that mean that the victim was shot along the long axis of the body... ie, like lying down, head raised off the ground?
Oh, as far as "unity" is concerned... it's all right for right-wingers and gun-nuts to threaten the President and defy the law. But it's not all right for black folk!
Rappy's ethics and morals are a matter of convenience. When he, or somebody "like" him, kills someone or shoots at lawmen it's OK. But when someone ELSE does it... someone he doesn't like... it's NOT ok. Clearly, the idea of goose sauce= gander sauce means nothing to him. He IS "the law"... or at least he thinks he should be!
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THUGR is a know-nothing militarist.
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NOBC
Nah, not the projects in Detroit, although we do cover a cemetary there - I call them the Zombie Squad.
My end of things is actually west of Detroit, out in the dead zone of townships between Detroit and Ann Arbor.
The actual company itself split a while back due to a schism in the ranks over taking contracts from TSA/DepHomeSec, which as predicted somewhat later blew up in the faces of those who did, eventually winding up with them handling the bulk of the business and me being little more than an arms-length advisor, mostly I just take my "share" of the proceeds and let them get on with it, laughing up my sleeve whenever they whinge to me about the headaches of trying to run things themselves.
Remember what I said about the worst thing you can do to anyone ?
Well, they wanted to be in charge...
Me and my crew, we played it clever with some loopholes and technically we're now the internal security arm of a commercial realty company, in practice and legally a PMC rather than a security contractor, which allows a LOT more leeway, although we do voluntarily comply with the uniform and equipment guidelines of PL330-1968 out of a sense of professionalism.
Essentially we're the PMC sub-section of a security company, the enforcers which back up the grunts, since technically it's all part of the same LLC, which is handy for obtaining bulk health insurance cause we can squeeze both with the realty corp and the security corp and get better pricing.
Effectively I just run security here these days, and even now do a large part of it myself, up to and including walking rounds - specifically the "wolf hours" just after midnight when yahoos are likely to get up to something and all our damn fools are coming home from the bars.
Dunno that you could say the residents "like" me in a personal sense, I am antisocial, bad tempered and all that, but they damn sure appreciate the hell out of my presence and often leave gifts on my doorstep to show it, mostly cause I do extra stuff beyond just security like handle minor vehicle problems (flats, dead battery, minor mechanical) and automotive lockouts, the latter cause every damn winter several of em wind up locking their keys in the car warming it up, so I went and got the same lockout kit AAA uses.
Not quite as benevolent as it seems though, see, I am keenly aware their rent puts food on my table, ergo I have a vested interest in them getting to work on time, yes ?
Oh, and a somewhat hilarious aside, one of the companies that handles deep city Detroit is DTM, they ARE actually professional security and not half bad at it, but it's that they've adapted this whole "Blackwater" look and style which cracks me the hell up cause it's such total overkill for the situation.
That said, as mentioned below, ten bucks for a sweep and escort is damn cheap - most contract security is on a price/value assessment - hell, you know what portion of a residents monthly rent finances me and the boys ?
Four Bucks.
-Frem
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Yep, Sig. And the one in the top of the head suggests that the cop was REALLY, REALLY tall...
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Frem, sorry if my errors in any way offended you. The things I wrote were how I remembered it from things you wrote. And pretty close, as viewed from L.A. But I do appreciate you setting the record straight for the sake of accuracy.
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Pish, not offended, no.
Oh, and clarification, Brown was HIT six times, but the officer FIRED ten.
One was the wild shot which went off inside the vehicle, the other nine were at Brown, so three misses.
Yanno 66% is piss poor accuracy for that range and situation, but that does tend to happen when one gets all emotionally involved.
ETA: Just got the word - they're sending in the National Guard, yeah that'll calm things down, NOT!
Seriously, they keep doubling down on the stupid/provocation here.
Seems I ain't the only one offended by such dumbassery.
Dumbest Police Chief in America
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I am scratching my head over how it is humanly possible to be as clueless as the St. Louis County and Ferguson police departments. To make one mistake is understandable but to have EVERYTHING you do be a complete fuck up is astounding.
More useful though is some from the on-scene Aldernman, Antonio French.
Meet the St. Louis Alderman Who's Keeping an Eye on Ferguson's Cops
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/antonio-french-ferguson-vi
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If you watched some truly jaw-dropping Vines of tear-gassing and smoke-bomb-throwing from Ferguson this week, chances are they came from Antonio French, the social-media-loving St. Louis alderman who's been spending lots of time with the protesters in Ferguson, Missouri, since the shooting of Michael Brown.
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more--more-more--
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/18/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html
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Autopsy results enough to charge officer, Brown family attorney says
By Steve Kastenbaum and Holly Yan, CNN
August 18, 2014 -- Updated 1538 GMT (2338 HKT)
to CNN affiliates KMOV, KSDK, KTVI and KPLR.
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Ferguson, Missouri (CNN) -- An independent autopsy into the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, provides "ample" evidence to support the arrest of the police officer who shot him, family attorney Daryl Parks said Monday at a news conference.
Parks was particularly concerned about gunshots that medical examiners hired by the family indicate came from behind and above.
"Why would he be shot in the very top of his head, a 6-foot-4 man?" Parks asked. "Makes no sense."
The autopsy could support witnesses' suggestions that Brown was holding his hands up in the air, said Shawn Purcell, who assisted in the autopsy. But other scenarios are possible, said Dr. Michael Baden, who supervised the inquiry.
A diagram from the autopsy shows entry and exit wounds.
But nothing in the autopsy suggested that Brown had engaged in a struggle, Baden said. Police have said that Brown reached into Officer Darren Wilson's car in a tussle over his gun.
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FRem,
Didn't think you were offended, but I apologized just in case, 'cuz I have good manners usually. Also thanks for the correction on shots: 10 fired, 6 hits. Appreciate that also, for the sake of accuracy. Hadn't seen anything reported but the 6 hits.
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The family's attorney says?
LOL
Really. That's funny.
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http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/18/us/missouri-ferguson-national-guard/
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Why bring National Guard to Ferguson?
By Josh Levs, CNN
August 18, 2014 -- Updated 1613 GMT (0013 HKT)
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CNN) -- By calling National Guard troops into Ferguson, Missouri, authorities are taking the situation "to the opposite extreme of community policing," a former FBI assistant director says.
Tom Fuentes, a CNN law enforcement analyst, notes that just a few days ago, authorities were out on the streets shaking hands with marchers. Capt. Ron Johnson of the Missouri State Highway Patrol "was like Gandhi, promising to ensure their safety," Fuentes said.
But growing violence -- amid protests over the shooting death of unarmed teen Michael Brown by a police officer -- changed the situation.
"Given these deliberate, coordinated and intensifying violent attacks on lives and property in Ferguson, I am directing the highly capable men and women of the Missouri National Guard ... in restoring peace and order to this community," Gov. Jay Nixon said in a statement Monday.
Police in the Ferguson area, just like many all over the country, have military equipment, which they used last week. So why bring in the Guard at all?
"You don't want extremely tired, fatigued, overtaxed police officers out there day after day, night after night," Fuentes said. And state patrol officers who came in from out of town and are staying hotels, working around the clock, are surely getting fatigued as well, he said.
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"You don't need more military equipment; it's more of a manpower issue."
But there are other reasons it may make sense to replace police on the scene, analysts say.
Members of the National Guard may better follow a "unified chain of command," said Jason Fritz, an Army veteran and senior editor of War on the Rocks, which analyzes national security issues.
In this case, that could be a big improvement. "I've never seen such a disjointed police effort as this," Fuentes said. Emphasis mine. NOBC
Nixon said the Guard will assist Col. Ron Replogle, head of the State Highway Patrol, "in restoring peace and order to this community."
If military police are among the Guard troops, they'll have special training in crowd control that may help, Fritz says.
Fuentes rejects that idea, saying National Guard troops' training does not prepare them for situations like this. "It's not their mission to do local law enforcement," he said.
But Fuentes and Fritz agree on another big reason it might make sense to bring in the National Guard: Residents are fed up with the police.
Marchers have accused police of responding with disproportionate violence against a mostly peaceful crowd. And residents have described protesters helping protect stores from being looted while police did nothing.
Police also infuriated protesters by releasing a video that they said shows Michael Brown involved in a convenience store robbery -- even though police themselves have said it does not relate to the police officer having stopped Brown as he was walking down the street.
By bringing in National Guard troops, Nixon is moving both Ferguson and St. Louis County police out of the way.
"That might be enough," Fritz said.
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