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CIA does a major walk-back on Russia being at fault

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UPDATED: Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:49
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Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:24 AM

Naw, seriously, if you post more than a few words, reading your posts is far too much effort for too little gain. I don't bother.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:29 AM

You just can't stand the fact that the rebel leader just about copped to everything. Not to worry, the rest here will through it in your face till you acknowledge it. I gonna love that.

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Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:44 AM

I've read several versions of the story. Other people said he was misquoted. HE said he was misquoted. He says a unit had BUKs, then (in your version, p3) he says he doesn't know for sure. It's a case of he said - he said. This is really just more blah blah blah - and very confused blah blah.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:28 PM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
I just gotta ask 1kiki, did you watch the video above your post or the story I posted by the associated press with the rebel leader? Both the video and news story goes a long way to show everything said about the shoot down was correct. Watch the video.

Some might even see it as a confession.




If it goes against official Alliance propaganda, it must be false.

Really not sure why so much effort is being wasted by some trying to explain away what happened. Putin gave the separatist the BUK missile system, trained the soldiers, and they shot down a passenger airliner.

End of story.

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Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:38 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
U.S. Finds No Direct Link to Russia in Downing of MH17

The United States has found no direct link between the Russian government and the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 last week, three senior intelligence officials said Tuesday.

...

Compare that with Obama's earlier statement that they had 'confidence' the missile came from separatist-controlled areas: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-17/malaysia-jet-shot-down-in-ukr
aine-near-russia-ifx-says.html
starting @~ 10:15


So - you do understand that "separatist-controlled areas" are not Russia, right? A missile coming from the rebel controlled area is not coming direct from Russia.

And funny that you didn't put this part in a bright color: The White House stressed that it was not backing off what President Barack Obama, Secretary of State John Kerry and U.N. Ambassador Samantha Power have said for days — that Russia provided training and support.

Hey - if you want to prove that there's a major retraction, you have to find proof that the US admin ever said that Russia was *directly* involved.

Go. Find it. Prove it.

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I read that the billboard was for a car dealership just a kilometer or two down the road in a town NOT controlled by the separatists.
You read where? And you get down on me for not providing links!

I posted several links to sites where people geolocate the video and other photos, including shots from google map. Apparently you missed it. Here:

http://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-liveblog-day-154-heavy-fighting-
in-donetsk/#3487


http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/locals-say-rebels-moved-missile-laun
cher-shortly-before-mala


This one is in Russian, but the photos show what people are doing:
http://avva.livejournal.com/2787603.html?thread=107583763#t107583763

ETA: cross post G. Ditto what you said. ;) And - headline! Major retraction! G said the Queen of England didn't do it! LOL!


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Thursday, July 24, 2014 7:18 PM

" Ditto what you said " ???

Omg, we have a Rush Limbaugh ditto - head among us!!! LOL

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Thursday, July 24, 2014 7:26 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
" Ditto what you said " ???

Omg, we have a Rush Limbaugh ditto - head among us!!! LOL



Pointless as usual.


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Thursday, July 24, 2014 7:49 PM

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Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
And - headline! Major retraction! G said the Queen of England didn't do it! LOL!




Wait a sec - find where I said "The Queen of England shot down MH17!" Go ahead! I said she dated a Russian Separatist dude once and shot him down, that's hardly the same thing. :)

heh, I mock us.



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Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
I've read several versions of the story. Other people said he was misquoted. HE said he was misquoted. He says a unit had BUKs, then (in your version, p3) he says he doesn't know for sure. It's a case of he said - he said. This is really just more blah blah blah - and very confused blah blah.



Reuters have released a tape of the interview: http://www.rferl.org/media/video/ukraine-rebel-commander-buk-missile/2
5468569.html?nocache=1


Doesn't sound like he was misquoted.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:36 PM

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.....G

I sure hope that guy has a go bag.



Now that's funny.

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