CIA does a major walk-back on Russia being at fault

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SIGNYM

Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:16 AM

Meanwhile, the USA intelligence agencies do a major walk-back from the assertions they were making, oh just a few short hours ago, when they had proof... PROOF, I TELL YOU! VIDEOS! ... All over the media!..... that Russia gave missiles to the separatists

US: No direct link to Russia found in MH17 attack
http://nypost.com/2014/07/22/us-no-evidence-of-direct-link-to-russia-i
n-mh17-attack/

U.S.: No evidence of Russian government in plane downing
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/us-evidence-direct-russian-link-pl
ane/

US: No link to Russian gov't in plane downing
http://news.msn.com/world/us-no-link-to-russian-govt-in-plane-downing

THGRRI

Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:24 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Meanwhile, the USA intelligence agencies do a major walk-back from the assertions they were making, oh just a few short hours ago, when they had proof... PROOF, I TELL YOU! VIDEOS! ... All over the media!..... that Russia gave missiles to the separatists

US: No direct link to Russia found in MH17 attack
http://nypost.com/2014/07/22/us-no-evidence-of-direct-link-to-russia-i
n-mh17-attack/

U.S.: No evidence of Russian government in plane downing
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/us-evidence-direct-russian-link-pl
ane/

US: No link to Russian gov't in plane downing
http://news.msn.com/world/us-no-link-to-russian-govt-in-plane-downing

All they are doing is suggesting what can be done at this point in a court of law. They know what happened and who did it. They just can't point to an individual or prove that the missile that was used was one of the ones they observed being sent in and then out again by Russia. They know it is but just can't prove it.

Let's not forget they destroyed the integrity of the crime scene. It is five days later and the world is just being allowed in. You keep trying though Signym. This is one of those you lost before you even started and definitely shows you to be if nothing else someone who moved here for a better life that just can't stand to admit this is a much better place that whence you came.

SIGNYM

Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:29 AM

U.S. Finds No Direct Link to Russia in Downing of MH17
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-plane-crash/u-s-finds-no-dire
ct-link-russia-downing-mh17-n162426

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The United States has found no direct link between the Russian government and the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 last week, three senior intelligence officials said Tuesday.

So, that so-called missile that they said was trundled back and forth over the border, that there were videos of...?

Quote:
The officials repeated their belief that pro-Russian separatists fired the missile that took out the jetliner over Ukraine, killing 298 people, but they said they could not say definitively that the separatists did it.

And that trajectory that they said they had which "showed" who did the shooting...?

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:32 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
You keep trying though Signym. This is one of those you lost before you even started and definitely shows you to be if nothing else someone who moved here for a better life that just can't stand to admit this is a much better place that whence you came.

Please, the Rappy impression is getting old.
Or is just an impression-?

SIGNYM

Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:42 AM

(five days ago) U.S. Sees Evidence of Russian Links to Jet’s Downing

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WASHINGTON — The United States government has concluded that the passenger jet felled over Ukraine was shot down by a Russian-made surface-to-air missile launched from rebel-held territory and most likely provided by Russia to pro-Moscow separatists, officials said on Friday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/19/world/europe/malaysia-airlines-plane
-ukraine.html?_r=0

So much for the lapdog media!
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

MAL4PREZ

Wednesday, July 23, 2014 6:51 PM

Strawman. No one here (that I've seen) said Putin pulled the trigger, or ordered the shot. I certainly never did. From the beginning all I've claimed is that separatists did it by mistake using a weapon provided by Russia.

Russia bears some responsibility for supporting the rebels and keeping this war going, just as the US bears responsibility for the grief we cause when we support rebels. Funny how you are all over the West when we do this evil shit, but you invent wild conspiracy theories to excuse Russia when they do it.

But, in case you missed it, Russia bearing responsibility is not Russia doing it *directly*

Try and keep up.

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GEEZER

Wednesday, July 23, 2014 6:59 PM

Yeah. Major walk-back. Right.

The articles you cite say that there's no proof Russia shot down the airliner (were there ever any U.S. government claims that they did?). They just provided the missile systems and training to the Ukrainian separatists who did shoot it down.

Then there's this, published this morning.

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The Obama administration, detailing what it called evidence of Russian complicity in the downing of a Malaysian airliner, on Tuesday released satellite images and other sensitive intelligence that officials say show Moscow had trained and equipped rebels in Ukraine responsible for the attack.

Senior U.S. intelligence officials cited sensors that traced the path of the missile, shrapnel markings on the downed aircraft, voiceprint analysis of separatists claiming credit for the strike, and a flood of photos and other data from social-media sites.

The officials also for the first time identified a sprawling Russian military installation near the city of Rostov as the main conduit of Russian support to separatists in Ukraine, describing it as a hub of training and weapons that has expanded dramatically over the past month. The officials said that tanks, rocket launchers and other arms have continued to flow into Ukraine even after the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, which killed 298 civilians.

Analysts at the CIA and other U.S. intelligence agencies are continuing to examine information about the crash, but the officials said the intelligence assembled in the five days since the attack points overwhelmingly to Russian-backed separatists in territory they control in eastern Ukraine.

The senior intelligence officials said they have ruled out the possibility that Ukrainian forces were responsible for the attack.

That is not a plausible scenario,” said one senior U.S. official, who noted that American intelligence agencies have confirmed that Ukraine had no antiaircraft missile system within range of the Malaysian flight at the time it was struck.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-discloses-int
elligence-on-downing-of-malaysian-jet/2014/07/22/b178fe58-11e1-11e4-98ee-daea85133bc9_story.html?hpid=z1

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AURAPTOR

Wednesday, July 23, 2014 7:07 PM

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Please, the Rappy impression is getting old.
Or is just an impression-?

.

Y'all don't know what to do with just one of me !

BYTEMITE

Wednesday, July 23, 2014 7:47 PM

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Originally posted by G:
Are you saying The Western Media (whoever that is) is not on a short gov leash? I thought that was one of your things? This might be a watershed moment.

Does the media still even have watershed moments? I thought they stopped doing that when journalistic integrity died.

I mean there was a lovely funeral, with clowns and everything, Rupert Murdoch and Piers Morgan had a brawl in the lobby, they served little cakes afterward.

As for all of this, I dunno. I've no doubt the American media is manipulating us, but at the same time, Putin really is a scumbag and he's been leading his country into somewhat questionable actions with Ukraine. And that's even with me thinking that Crimea might be somewhat possibly legitimate due to all the ethnic Russians there.

This is one of those things where I don't think it's going to be possible to know who to believe and we may never know for sure. Probably time to visit the fringe sites and start piecing together our own narrative.

BYTEMITE

Wednesday, July 23, 2014 8:48 PM

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I agree with the problem of Eastern Ukraine and Crimea, in terms of ethnic Russians who want to live under Russian rule. Isn't there another way to solve that problem without tanks and rockets?

You would THINK. Like maybe we could get together the leadership of America, and the leadership of Russia, and give them a combination metric yard stick and some privacy, and maybe settle this nonsense once and for all.

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