garlic in angel

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GROUNDED

Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:16 AM

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In Unleased Angel takes a silver pen from Wesley and uses it to kill a werewolf. Of course this only shows that contact with silver is non-injurious, much like holding a wooden stake I suppose. Being stabbed with silver? I don't think there are any instances of that in either Buffy or Angel.

As for garlic I was certain that they debunked that particular thread of the mythology at some point - but then there are the instances mentioned above in which garlic is seen. To be honest I think they should have dispensed with it entirely at the very outset.

CYBERSNARK

Sunday, October 17, 2004 3:05 PM

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Originally posted by Kanger33:
I was always really confused on the garlic issue too. Mainly because: didn't Spike really like hot wings? Any recipe I've ever seen for those has a fair amount of garlic in it.

Yes, but we know from Angel that vampires don't have very strong taste buds --most of what they go for is texture (Spike crumbling up Wheetabix in his cup'a blood).

Remamber when Angel turned human and realized he could taste food again?

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KANGER33

Sunday, October 17, 2004 5:36 PM

Well sure, but my point was that he ate the hot wings and that would surely have killed him if garlic was harmful to vampires.

Ah, I need to go back and watch that Angel ep again. That's a really good one.

EMBERS

Sunday, October 17, 2004 5:55 PM

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Originally posted by Kanger33:
Well sure, but my point was that he ate the hot wings and that would surely have killed him if garlic was harmful to vampires.

your point is a good one...
but I don't think the whole garlic issue was important to Joss or Mutant Enemy...
he cared more about issues like Vampires not entering without an invite or only a wooden stake in the heart was deadly (not plastic like Riley used on Spike to make him think he was being staked)

Not all vampire stories are consistant and I don't think Joss saw garlic as an killer, he certainly never used it (Angel complains about his Father using the garlic, but he never says that is could kill him or even hurt him).

Now if someone served Spike or Angel a glass of holy water then THAT would kill them!

INSANESPIKE

Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:15 PM

If I remember right, the whole "glass of holy water" thing was used once in Buffy. I believe the episode was "Helpless".

"How drunk was I last night?"

BIKISDAD

Monday, October 18, 2004 1:30 AM

There was a great sort of "inside joke" regarding garlic and Spike in the Buffy season 7 episode "Empty Places" (or was it Empty Spaces? - whatever). This episode was just a couple after "Lies My Parents Told Me", in which Giles and Wood had conspired to try to kill Spike.

In this episode, Dawn identifies a Mission "up north in Gilroy" where they may find more information about the mysterious preacher, Caleb. The joke here is that Giles decides to send Spike (and Andrew) to check it out. Both Spike and later Buffy question Giles' reason for sending Spike on this mission - whether Giles is up to something again to get rid of Spike. Giles denies that he has anything nefarious in mind. However.... OK, here's the real joke (that probably only residents of northern California understood) - Gilroy is the self-proclaimed "Garlic Capital of the World"!

People have said that the writers weren't as clever in season 7 as in past years of Buffy, but I thought that joke was HI-larious. Of course, like many other inside jokes on Buffy, you had to have your own knowledge of the punch line because they never explained it on the show.

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