OK THIS MAY BE OBVIOUS FOR SOME!!!
POSTED BY: JenDandy
UPDATED: Friday, October 22, 2004 04:42
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By all means, fry him under the various laws that cover this - there are plenty, and it's technically a felony, perhaps two depending on what provisons of certain online child protection laws apply...
But here's something else to think about, this creeper didn't consider that he was messing with rabid fans of this show...
Main Entry: ra·bid
Pronunciation: 'ra-b&d also 'rA-
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin rabidus mad, from rabere
1 a : extremely violent : FURIOUS b : going to extreme lengths in expressing or pursuing a feeling, interest, or opinion
That's right, Rabid, with a capital R.
And for the next (checks date).. 187 days, we have nothing better to do than hunt him, hassle him, hate at him in whatever fashion our whims could dictate, and there's hundreds of hundreds of us... scary thought, innit ?
Unleash the 
Reavers!!
-F
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OMG..... I love this fangroup! We all know what we want!.... it's great.
I feel sorry for anyone who gets us mad again!
This is what going mad must feel like...
... No... this is what going mad must fee like!
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Originally posted by Malicious:
PLEASE, Sis, DON'T associate ME with this Godforsaken idiot!
Mal-licious
Co-Holder of the Red Bell from Hell
My deepest apologies Sis, I was so mad I was not thinking straight.
You know I wubs you!
The Old Broad Monkey
http://lurid-eidolon.org/fireflyawards/index.php
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(wipes lipstick off of cheek) That's ok. I'll forgive you. Again. As USUAL.
Mal-licious
Co-Holder of the Red Bell from Hell
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Oops, sorry about that, I thought I washed it all off last night.
And what? Am I going to have to make another Mal wallpaper to make up for the "new" Revue issues? LOL
The Old Broad Monkey
http://lurid-eidolon.org/fireflyawards/index.php
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Well, it wouldn't HURT.
Mal-licious
Co-Holder of the Red Bell from Hell
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Before one reads my reply here, please understand that in no way do I condon this behavour. Being someone that is knowledgable in technical matters, I'm just trying to bring some perspective.
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Originally posted by embers:
I don't know how the laws are written in this regard, I'm guessing pretty broadly because that is what legislators usually do when they are dealing with a new field and they want to allow law enforcement and the courts latitude.
You miss my point. Which country is this person in and what are the laws *there*. It doesn't matter if the US (or that specific state) has laws against this if that person is in the UK. It makes the point moot.
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Originally posted by embers:
therefore, because:
1. this board was attacked dozens, if not actually a hundred times with this excessively obsene imagine. It was impossible to go to this board without seeing it, it wasn't just fan art and fan fic that led to the redirect, most of the active threads contained it as well. It seemed obvious to me that the purpose, intent was to bring the board down, to force Haken to shut it down. This is an anti-social attack and destruction of private property. It must have used up huge amounts of bandwidith.
Then what constitues an "attack." To me it is someone trying to gain access to some resource that that person doesn't have access to.
If all this person did was make a post that was a redirector, then (s)he had access to post as it is availible to the public and as such no problem there. The problem was with the *content* of the post which is where banning comes in.
Since the site wasn't brought down in any way, nor anything dammaged (just acouple problematic posts) there wasn't any actual damage.
I think that you are going overboard thinking that this person's goal was to bring down the board. If it was there would've been a DDOS attack or some form of actual attempt at cracking the site. Since I see *.asp in the pages of this site, I would think that it is a windows box and as such, the attacker would have access to *many* exploits to do this. Since, by what you have written, this isn't the case, this must not have been to goal of the "attacker." Perhaps it was a kind of "hackivism" (depending on what that pic was actually of).
And speaking as someone that has (and currently) runs a site, the bandwidth used to upload a pic and some text couldn't have cost more than a few seconds on a wideband connection. So, huge amounts of bandwidth? No.
The only way that the bandwidth *may* have become a problem is if that pic was actually posted on this site (which you haven't stated is the case) and even then pics aren't that big. Since it was only a problem for the better part of *one* day I doubt that alot of bandwidth was used.
Also, I was checking this site out yesterday, and although it was slower than usual, I have had it slower than that on a non-"attacked" day.
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Originally posted by embers:
2. Haken did not take down the site, he gave up almost his entire Saturday afternoon and evening in order to clean the board. There were many others who put in a lot of work trying to give out information to the fan art & fan fiction writers to tell them how to protect their work from the redirect. Haken and other loyal browncoats did not deserve to have their time and energy stolen like this.
Welcome to the reality of running a board. Is it fair? No. Is it going to happen again? Yes.
The only way for Haken to minimize the "damage" is to give the power to fix problems to others as well. Most likely by making an admin iterface and giving access to it to trusted members of the site. Quite frankly, with how long this site has been active, this should have been done already.
Another idea would be (if he is indeed running a windows variant) to switch the server OS over to an actually secure one. He could also open the code for some people to look over for a security audit (I'd volenteer to do this but I don'
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Yes I certainly appreciate the hard work!
But to those who responded so vehmently, IMHO the best way to deal with such posts if you are not the admin/ webmaster is to IGNORE THEM. The person who posted that pic is just trying to yank our chain, and (s)he LOVES the outrage. So, this will be my only post on the topic.
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Originally posted by 11thHour:
Yeah, it was powerful repulsive... kinda burns itself into the brain cells real fast like a corrosive acid. The trick is to look away before hysterical blindness ensues...
I have a sneaking, horrible suspicion that this image of which you speak is called 'Tubgirl'?
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