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Was there really a Shan-Yu?

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Friday, October 8, 2004 11:26 PM

Well here's a useless fact! On that new game "Evil Genius" you are,an evil genius of all things! Anywho, one of the evil genius's you can be is this ka-razy asian guy named "Shen yu". It blew my mind when I saw who you could be. Took awhile to clean up.

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Friday, March 7, 2008 11:13 AM

On the wikipedia entry for the episode War Stories (link at bottom), it says:
'Shepherd Book looks over his shoulder, musing about a "warrior-poet" Xiang Yu'.

The entry for Xiang Yu says:
'Xiang Yu (232 BC – 202 BC) was a prominent general during the fall of the Qin Dynasty...A great general, it took him only several years to put a giant empire effectively at his whim — but he was poor at diplomacy, management and administrative affairs. He is traditionally viewed as having an impetuous nature by Chinese historians, and that further inability to realize his shortcomings doomed him to failure during his struggle with Liu Bang over supremacy of China.'

Have looked him up using google, lots of stuff about him, but none of it mentions any poems or famous works by him. He also seems to be more of a warrior and a hero than a dictator.

Also, it is wikipedia, so you have to take things stated on there with a pinch of salt!!
Who knows if it is this xiang yu they are referring to in firefly!:-P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Stories_%28Firefly_episode%29

Rebecca

'Can't stop the signal...'

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Friday, March 7, 2008 3:19 PM

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Originally posted by ratnut12:
Was there really a Shan-Yu?

Yes I saw him last summer at Sea World.



I'm Shan-Yu and so's my wife!

It was like all of us together made up Tuttle when we got here!

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Wednesday, July 16, 2014 6:52 AM

Chanyu (also known as Chan-yu and Shanyu; simplified Chinese: ??; traditional Chinese: ??; pinyin: Chányú; Wade–Giles: Ch'an2-yü2; Middle Chinese: [t?n??i?u?] (Guangyun) or [?i??n??i?u?]; Xiongnu language: Sanok or Tsanak,[1] short form for Chengli Gutu Chanyu (Cheng-li Ku-tu Chan-yu; simplified Chinese: ??????; traditional Chinese: ??????; pinyin: Chenglí Gutu Chányú; Wade–Giles: Ch'eng1-li2 Ku1-t'u0 Ch'an2-yü2; according to Book of Han, it means Heaven, Child, Immense appearance[2])) was the title used by the nomadic supreme rulers of Middle and Central Asia for eight centuries and was superseded by the title "Khagan"" -wiki shanyu

Since China at that time was divided between many warring states like Qin, Zhao, Yan, Qi, Lu, Wei, Han and Chu, the Xiongnu
Could this be a metaphor? - http://www.allempires.com/article/index.php?q=The_Xiong_Nu_Empire

Does it even have much to do with Shanyu to base a supposition of a metaphor or is it reaching?

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Sunday, July 20, 2014 12:41 AM

Look up the book "The Art Of War"

John

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