OK THIS MAY BE OBVIOUS FOR SOME!!!

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UPDATED: Friday, October 22, 2004 04:42
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SUCCATASH

Sunday, October 17, 2004 4:48 AM

ASS = Aggresive Sick Spammer

"Gott kann dich nicht vor mir beschuetzen, weil ich nicht boese bin."

11THHOUR

Sunday, October 17, 2004 4:52 AM

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Originally posted by embers:
I agree this nasty destructive person should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

This ridiculous excuse about security doesn't stand up to logic...the extremely offensive anti-social behavior should lead to fines and a police record.

Absolutely.

And yes, the "security" excuse only works if one is as limited in mental capacity as that trog is.

We must make sure the bad guys don't win.

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I believe in freedom of speech, and I have always loved how Haken has allowed the browncoats so much latitude in posting pictures and stories, but for someone to come in here to try to damage this wonderful site and hurt this community is inexcusable, and is not a protected right, no matter how you look at it.

Very well said.

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So I really want to thank you to Haken and everyone here who has worked hard (obviously) to clean up the board.

I am so impressed by those who dove in and put in the effort to counteract the trog's redirect code. Says a lot about the integrity of the folks here.

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STILL FLYING

edited to add: BTW if you find out who David Casey is and where he lives...let us know, please, post it on the board. I think we would all like to tell his parents and teachers about his activities....

Yep. A very powerful way to remedy the anti-social behavior is to shine a huge spotlight on the perpetrator. These trolls get emboldened because they are "anonymous" and feel untouchable. Beware of human behavior when they get the idea that there are no repercussions to their misdeeds.

I say, let's repercussion his ass.

11thHour

LISSA

Sunday, October 17, 2004 4:59 AM

so, i'm definitely glad i went to see garden state for the second time today and missed this. sounds...nasty and idiotic.

~lissa, spwhore

LISSA

Sunday, October 17, 2004 5:02 AM

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Originally posted by 11thHour:

I say, let's repercussion his ass.

that's a HOT line:) it should be used in a cool movie or tv show or something...lol:)

~lissa, spwhore

BILLYUNO

Sunday, October 17, 2004 6:10 AM

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Originally posted by 11thHour:

I say, let's repercussion his ass.

**adds to his list of cool lines**

SIGMANUNKI

Sunday, October 17, 2004 6:20 AM

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Originally posted by Succatash:

ASS = Aggresive Sick Spammer

Well, I definitly agree that this practice is horrible. So, banning is definitly in order if the magnitude was bad enough (which I gather it was by the posts in this thread). In fact, my not writing an email address harvester for my old work is the major reason why I was chosen to be laid off in spite of the fact that I was more senior then others when the company got in finacial trouble.

But, someone will have to tell me how this is illegal. Laws are only enforcable in the region that they exist in and laws against this practice are not universal.

Given that the internet is an anonymous media, how do we know that this person lives in a place that has these laws? How do we know that the IP in the Haken's logs weren't spoofed?

Some have mentioned "hacking". What was actually done as there are very large differences between cracking a site and just putting in some javascript redirector or some such.

----
"Canada being mad at you is like Mr. Rogers throwing a brick through your window." -Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

JENDANDY

Sunday, October 17, 2004 8:06 AM

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
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Originally posted by Succatash:

ASS = Aggresive Sick Spammer

But, someone will have to tell me how this is illegal. Laws are only enforcable in the region that they exist in and laws against this practice are not universal.

Given that the internet is an anonymous media, how do we know that this person lives in a place that has these laws? How do we know that the IP in the Haken's logs weren't spoofed?

Some have mentioned "hacking". What was actually done as there are very large differences between cracking a site and just putting in some javascript redirector or some such.

Illegal or no, hacking or no, what he did was inappropriate, gross, and extremely annoying so it's fun to talk about him getting his butt kicked (or something even less fun) in prison and such.

No use trying to make us see reason if ya didn't get a load of that pic (in every gorram thread you looked) for yourself.

Sig Rebel

FREDEP

Sunday, October 17, 2004 8:44 AM

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Originally posted by gojiro:
You can be prosecuted and I hope Haken will do it. I doubt your real name is David Casey, but you can be traced. I've already called a friend of mine who specializes in computer forensics, and he's going to take a look and see what he can do. (And yes, he's a cop.)

Whhooohooo!!!!...Let's nail this

MALICIOUS

Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by Neroli:
So, to me, you are still no better than someone that hacks sites with malicious intent because you chose to use the crudest, most harmful way of making your point known.

PLEASE, Sis, DON'T associate ME with this Godforsaken idiot!

Mal-licious

Co-Holder of the Red Bell from Hell

EMBERS

Sunday, October 17, 2004 2:16 PM

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
just putting in some javascript redirector or some such.

I don't know how the laws are written in this regard, I'm guessing pretty broadly because that is what legislators usually do when they are dealing with a new field and they want to allow law enforcement and the courts latitude.

therefore, because:
1. this board was attacked dozens, if not actually a hundred times with this excessively obsene imagine. It was impossible to go to this board without seeing it, it wasn't just fan art and fan fic that led to the redirect, most of the active threads contained it as well. It seemed obvious to me that the purpose, intent was to bring the board down, to force Haken to shut it down. This is an anti-social attack and destruction of private property. It must have used up huge amounts of bandwidith.

2. Haken did not take down the site, he gave up almost his entire Saturday afternoon and evening in order to clean the board. There were many others who put in a lot of work trying to give out information to the fan art & fan fiction writers to tell them how to protect their work from the redirect. Haken and other loyal browncoats did not deserve to have their time and energy stolen like this.

therefore I feel that at the VERY least the instigator must:
1. repay the cost of bandwidth, the cost of Haken's time, as well as punitive damages because the attack was intentional.
2. have a public record for the destructive actions because this kind of anti-social behavior will continue and grow worse if the individual thinks they can get away with it. Besides I really do think that parents, teachers, and employers should know about this destructive behavior.

The only way to accomplish this is by charging him with whatever laws are now on the books.

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