Lucy
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Thursday, August 14, 2014 02:39
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Pet scan image of normal -vs- schizophrenic brain electrical activity
Schizophrenic brains show above normal activity.
Schizophrenics have super powers.
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Perhaps schizophrenics have not yet been trained to handle the increased usage of their cerebral potential.
Perhaps we "non-schizophrenics" are merely limited in our understanding, and insist upon all higher-level cerebals degrade themselves down to our level so they are like us, and not allowed to expand their cerebral potential. Maybe we will even force them to take drugs (12 Monkeys, anyone?) to prevent them from exceeding beyond what we are comfortable with them becoming.
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
https://www.neurogistics.com/TheScience/WhatareNeurotransmi09CE.asp
"There are two kinds of neurotransmitters – INHIBITORY and EXCITATORY. Excitatory neurotransmitters are not necessarily exciting – they are what stimulate the brain. Those that calm the brain and help create balance are called inhibitory. Inhibitory neurotransmitters balance mood and are easily depleted when the excitatory neurotransmitters are overactive."
I believe I once read that the brain has about twice as much inhibitory
neurotransmitter activity as exitatory neurotransmitter activity.
This is, perhaps, the normal balance. Maybe the brain needs to rest
"two beats" for every active beat.
Also we can sleep all we want, but if we don't get the REM, the brain
will not be rested and will not function well until it is.
Or is that just Old School theory?
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Part of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at.
Twice as much inhibitory as excititory. This would imply that the brain is not being allowed to be at full and complete usage - less than 100%.
Rest 2 beats for every active one. Also would define brain usage at less than 33% at any given moment, any given activity or event.
If you are saying you agree that less than 100% of the brain potential is being used by us non-Lucys, I find no conflict or quarrel in your claim.
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Yes, enough to supply the 10% brain usage we use. Not enough to use all of the brain at once. Are you missing the connection?
No. I'm not missing the connection. I'm saying that it's a flawed concept based on a false assumption that more activity in the brain would mean more function, and that more metabolic energy into the brain would increase activity/function.
You do of course realize that higher percentages of oxygen than normal in the brain also lead to the death of nerve cells?
Which is why people on pure oxygen get "loopy" and also why it is in fact possible to overdose from oxygen? And why people don't breathe pure oxygen to obtain better focus or super powers?
Do you also realize too MUCH "brain food" in the brain is toxic and has has rather erratic effects on nuerotransmitters and behaviour due to those sugars functioning as a feedback mechanism?
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Are you really trying to use the claim of LOW LEVEL brain activity to prove the brain is being used near 100%? Mr. Illogical, hello.
All cells in the brain get used and all cells in the brain are adequately supplied, otherwise they would degenerate. Low level activity is the level of activity required to maintain the brain cells and their connections.
Activity beyond that is signaling and electrical potentials. When you generate a current in a closed electrical system, it is because the electrical currents are migrating towards the location of a different electrical potential. But the overall electrical intensity of the system has not changed. You are generating current by drawing a charge away from somewhere else.
When you focus on one task, part of your brain lights up, becomes more active, but your ability to perform other tasks simultaneously is diminished.
You use 100% of your brain. 100% of your brain is active at any given time, in a ready state primed to receive a signal. Your brain isn't 100% ACTIVELY SIGNALING at any given time, because that's dangerous and pointless and unsustainable.
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Assuming this chart has comparable gradients then it shows that there is multiples more electrical signal strength compared to the upper chart, further indicating the lack of 100% represented in the top chart - making your charts disprove your claim. I'm not saying more is always better, but surely you can see that there is much headroom to gain before 100% is achieved.
Being more quiet is not the same as being fully accessed and activated. For a creature incapable of using 100% of it's brain, having part of it stay quiet is needed, yes. This, as well, disproves your claim.
The point is. You're conflating brain use and activity and active signaling to some sort of level of real-world skill or ability. If you had extremely high rates of signaling, and all of your brain cells were signaling, the problem is it would all be conflicting and chaotic as well as harmful. As such it's not a useful concept or measure. It is flawed, and this idea about "only using ten percent of our brains," implying that if we could use more it could unlock some sort of nebulous "potential" is false. It's been disproven for a while now. Which is why a lot of us are objecting to the premise of this movie.
If you're functional then you are using as much of your brain as is reasonable, safe, healthy, and physically possible. Nothing, not drugs, not metabolism, not oxygen can push that upper limit.
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I was answering the query about where the concept came from. I'm not saying the film is accurate, I have not seen it yet.
Then don't defend the concept! If you know it's false, why did you make a point by point counterargument?
You could have just said this. That's ALL you had to say.
Overwhelmed by frustration... The way you posted your above arguments still leaves it ambiguous whether you're seriously arguing in favour of the 10% of brain thing, or whether you're just screwing with me, an
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Twice as much inhibitory as excititory. This would imply that the brain is not being allowed to be at full and complete usage - less than 100%.
Rest 2 beats for every active one. Also would define brain usage at less than 33% at any given moment, any given activity or event.
If you are saying you agree that less than 100% of the brain potential is being used by us non-Lucys, I find no conflict or quarrel in your claim.
No, it IMPLIES that brain cells have to rest or they will DIE. Stimulatory nuerotransmitters activate those nerve ion channels I was talking about. Uninhibited ion channel flooding results in a seizure.
If you are active and functioning, as I just said, you are already using your maximum brain "potential." Additional brain activity does not result in additional "potential." It results in conflicting signals, chaos, confusion, seizure, and death.
I do not envy seizure patients or schizophrenics what they live with. It's hell.
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I'm disappointed that this thread has devolved into a Scarlett Johansson free direction.
There. Much better. 
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm disappointed that this thread has devolved into a Scarlett Johansson free direction.
There. Much better.
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
Got any more? More better?
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Did I not already say it was her eyes that first grabbed my attention ?
I rest my case.
But feel free to add your own pics, showing what ever assets you feel need being highlighted.
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...Did you draw that? It's good.
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