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Serenity: Leaves on the Wind #6 **(SPOILERS!)**

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Tuesday, July 1, 2014 1:21 AM

I actually think Inara looked the most accurate of all of them.

The others had a few glitches here and there.

Also apart from the too many storylines issue, I kinda wish Emma had been more of a character and less of a prop used to give Zoe and Wash closure. But babies may be hard to write, so maybe that will get better.

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Tuesday, July 1, 2014 5:57 PM

The series takes place -- what, over the span of a few weeks? Maybe less? A one-month-old IS more of a prop than a character! If anything, we should have seen how tired and irritable she was making the crew: given everything she's been through and how much tension there is around her, there's no way that kid is on a regular sleep schedule!

On the other hand, I guess the crew have been saving up for nine months during their exciting mission of nothing-but-naps-and-intercourse.

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Tuesday, July 1, 2014 6:17 PM

There needs to be some rule changes to keep the comic going. I know two:

The police cannot distinguish Serenity from other Firefly spaceships. That will be a comic-book rule so that Mal can visit planets without being arrested when he lands.

Also, Mal will be able to escape the planet because another rule is that police long-range radar can't follow spaceships in space. That is how the Reavers fleet surprised the Alliance fleet in the movie.

Whedon had to disguise the long-range radar rule with a glowing cloud around Mr Universe's moon, but a glowing cloud around every planet that Mal visits would not be believed. That's why the rule is that radar doesn't work when comic-book Serenity is the target.

The comics would not need these special rules and unique physics laws if the comics could let Mal go back to being an ordinary criminal rather than the Alliance's most wanted fugitive. Mal could go back to being one tiny microbe hiding behind and with billions of other ordinary criminals.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:17 PM

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Originally posted by GWEK:
The series takes place -- what, over the span of a few weeks? Maybe less? A one-month-old IS more of a prop than a character! If anything, we should have seen how tired and irritable she was making the crew: given everything she's been through and how much tension there is around her, there's no way that kid is on a regular sleep schedule!

On the other hand, I guess the crew have been saving up for nine months during their exciting mission of nothing-but-naps-and-intercourse.



Man, I hate kids, and even I know that one-month old babies emote.

Like, a lot. Loudly and obnoxiously. At all times of the day and night. Whether people around them are happy or not.

So that's basically what I meant, with how angry and upset people were and how Serenity is often a rockety ride and how odd her schedule would be, there should have been a lot more crying. Either they were keeping the baby doped up to her ears courtesy Mal making Simon do it for sanity reasons (actually kinda funny in a dark humour way), or that baby has some weird ass calmness about her.

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Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:31 PM

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Originally posted by second:
There needs to be some rule changes to keep the comic going. I know two:

The police cannot distinguish Serenity from other Firefly spaceships. That will be a comic-book rule so that Mal can visit planets without being arrested when he lands.



Uh, yeah? There's over 40,000 mark threes still in operation in the verse. They're basically like the cadillac of space ships. And we already know that Kaylee knows enough to screw with their transponder signals and pulse beacons such as to throw off the legal authorities.

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Also, Mal will be able to escape the planet because another rule is that police long-range radar can't follow spaceships in space. That is how the Reavers fleet surprised the Alliance fleet in the movie.

Whedon had to disguise the long-range radar rule with a glowing cloud around Mr Universe's moon, but a glowing cloud around every planet that Mal visits would not be believed. That's why the rule is that radar doesn't work when comic-book Serenity is the target.



Other places it'd depend on the Alliance presence and how much technology is available. Most space ports have land-lock capabilities, and there seems to be some function that can be done over the cortex for places that have some measure of jurisdicational or magistrative control, but a lot of places might be too remote for either.

Also, again, Kaylee knows how to mess with the telemetry tracking their flight path and signals. See again the movie when they confuse the Alliance with seven different signals to throw off the pursuit. They can also probably disrupt the cortex if anyone tries something while they're in orbit.

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The comics would not need these special rules and unique physics laws if the comics could let Mal go back to being an ordinary criminal rather than the Alliance's most wanted fugitive. Mal could go back to being one tiny microbe hiding behind and with billions of other ordinary criminals.


I think that's mostly what they're doing. I don't think it's coincidence that there's a whole new crop of disenfranchised browncoats out there now. Before, Mal was staying low because many of his contacts had been wiped out and they were doing a lot more hard scrabble work and scavenging. Now, he has a bunch of new contacts that are probably going to have to start resorting to crime as well.

Mal refused to become a browncoat leader, he has chosen to remain a criminal instead of becoming a high profile target. Miranda and the Academy break-in and River are just slightly higher profile screwups that are thorns in the paw of some Alliance muckety mucks doing their best to bury the evidence. But that's really not that different from when Mal was just a criminal and River was just supercargo. They might run across someone sent after River maybe about three times a year, tops, otherwise I can imagine it'd be back to business as usual for the crew.

Now eventually the narrative probably will have to elevate Mal, get him to accept some position of leadership for a cause crusading against Blue Sun and the Alliance. This is a Whedon story after all, and the plot tends to eventually go there. But that will be more towards the end of the series.

In the meantime, I don't see why there wouldn't be a return to form after a brief period of excitement for a while, if slightly hotter than usual, but nothing they aren't used to dealing with. I mean as you said, they went almost nine months without running into any more problems than one crazy older man trying to steal the ship and where to pick up contraceptives.

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Tuesday, July 1, 2014 9:05 PM

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:

Uh, yeah? There's over 40,000 mark threes still in operation in the verse. They're basically like the cadillac of space ships. And we already know that Kaylee knows enough to screw with their transponder signals and pulse beacons such as to throw off the legal authorities. . . .

In the meantime, I don't see why there wouldn't be a return to form after a brief period of excitement for a while, if slightly hotter than usual, but nothing they aren't used to dealing with.

I'm not convinced that the Alliance can't find/track Serenity again and again. Like ever other day.

But, if Mal was constantly moving the crew to other Firefly class spaceships, he could keep dodging the Alliance indefinitely. Mal's life becomes a game of Three-card Monte, with spaceships for cards. Guess which spaceship that has Mal as captain and win an Alliance prize! Except all the moving into new ships destroys Serenity as the tenth crew member. Serenity becomes nothing special for the Firefly story.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, July 1, 2014 9:25 PM

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I'm not convinced that the Alliance can't find/track Serenity again and again. Like ever other day.


Jubal snuck up on them, but only because River was in a coma.

All other times, Alliance doesn't really have a chance. Unless they use other psychics, but that's basically a lot of effort and resources that would be better used elsewhere for one insignificant ship and no real gain. I mean they just lost TWO highly trained operatives this time around, a psychic, and the military guy running the Op, and in return they managed to take out some of the browncoat cell but Serenity got away.

There will be someone always plotting against Serenity and gunning for everyone's capture, because some of them seem like they have a lot of ego and tend to be petty. You can bet that something Mal and crew have done stings and they'll want their revenge. But any plot that has a prayer of even working would take months of planning and set up, including tracking Serenity down. And probably still get destroyed by the crew's blind dumb luck.

So due to the size of space and the time duration for travel, there's some hard limits on how often people can try to get at Serenity. This isn't like scouring a five mile area in a remote part of Pakistan, this is an entire solar system with millions of miles between points of interest. Heck, even planetary based sensors would have a lot of ground to cover and not all worlds are as technologically advanced as core worlds. There will be excitement here and there when the Alliance finally does find them and takes a shot at them, but the rest of the time life would be pretty normal for them.

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Thursday, July 3, 2014 1:23 PM

Yet again, Jayne gets brown eyes. [SIGH]

Devout Keeper of Jayne's Lunchbox

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Thursday, July 3, 2014 7:29 PM

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Originally posted by VeraSamuels:
Yet again, Jayne gets brown eyes. [SIGH]



He must use contacts to keep people guessin'.




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Thursday, July 3, 2014 7:32 PM

That's my best guess too. Must be cheaper than those specs Simon was wearing in the first episode.

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