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Jayne might not like Mal, but he does respect him as a man, and as the Captain.
And don't forget that in Ariel, Jayne has a change of heart and tries to get River and Simon out before the Feds arrive, but he's too late.
Deep down Jayne wants to do the right thing, though sometimes it's hard to tell by what's on the surface.
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I think it's still unclear whether he turned on Mal in Serenity or not. I tend to think he took the Fed's offer. I think he gave him a way to cut himself free so that he'd be able to claim he didn't know how he got loose if things didn't work out.
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Originally posted by Zeek:
I think it's still unclear whether he turned on Mal in Serenity or not. I tend to think he took the Fed's offer. I think he gave him a way to cut himself free so that he'd be able to claim he didn't know how he got loose if things didn't work out.
I'm almost certain this is the case.
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Jayne might not like Mal, but he does respect him as a man, and as the Captain.
He... kind of doesn't. In the movie Jayne couldn't care less about being threatened with airlocks and at that point he thought Mal was making terrible decisions. Jayne even says that he thinks he'd be a much better captain.
Jayne strikes me as kind of a short-sighted guy who very rarely remembers lessons he's been taught, and is always only in it for the money, but occasionally he gets flashes of a conscience.
And it's that occasional conscience that keeps him just this side of likeable and why he can sometimes be almost loyal but not really.
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Byte: "almost loyal but not really."
Jayne. Yeah, he's a thug & not trustworthy.
He can't stand River; has the hots for Inara; fears & respects Zoe;
is fond of Kaylee.
He felt real bad when the young Mudder took a bullet for him.
"Mal, don't tell the others what I done." He wants/hopes for respect.
Jayne does have some caring feelings, mostly for women. He has low
cunning & isn't real smart. I think he had conflict about betraying Mal,
'cause he wants respect. Leave him alone to make a decision or put
temptation in his way ... he reverts to Crooked thug instantly.
His character is set.
... oooOO}{OOooo ...
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Originally posted by MUTT999:
And don't forget that in Ariel, Jayne has a change of heart and tries to get River and Simon out before the Feds arrive, but he's too late.
Sorry. Made this sound like a fact. It isn't, of course. Just my take on it.

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I don't think Jayne has much respect for the Fed. Weaselly rat, mole, untrustworthy, will say anything, untrained in surviving interrogation. He may have helped the Fed, but he didn't outright free him, because the guy is just untrustworthy, not to mention dumb - on the scale of whom to respect, Mal got the better of the Fed, so that's the one to follow.
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Jayne is family/crew [according to Mal's definition].
Jayne is more than 'just a thug'.
'Shepherd Book once told me, if you can't do something smart, do something right'.
Devout Keeper of Jayne's Lunchbox
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