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Satan's Handiwork

POSTED BY: Wishimay
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Friday, May 16, 2014 3:17 AM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2629356/Satans-handiwork-Paren
ts-rail-against-controversial-Common-Core-math-standards-confusing-frustrating.html


Believe it or not, that term actually applies. We had some serious problems on our end with it last year and the year before. The problem is (I'm guessing here) that they hired math majors to write the curriculum, not child learning specialists with a math background. Hubbs did Trig for the degree he had, and was pretty good at math, and it left HIM scratching his head.
For any given problem, they would have the kids do weeks on weeks of trying to get them to estimate a problem four different ways, and THEN teach the standard way, which would work great for adults and would give a more comprehensive idea of how math in general works, but younger children lack that kind of strategic memory that let them differentiate between practice math and working math, especially the millions of kids with any kind of attention problems, or my kid who has a visual/spatial number translation problem. They would send home these worksheets that lacked any explanation on how to do the problem (which would be marginally explained to the kids at school) and the parents were left to reverse engineer estimation math that most of us haven't reviewed in thirty years or so. I must have sent a dozen sheets back to school with a note saying "She didn't understand the instructions you gave seven hours ago and I have no idea why you would estimate this to begin with"
I made a complaint to the principal, and he just shook his head like "aren't you stupid" but most of the parents I talked to said they didn't get it either. A recent study said over 90% of parents couldn't. Fortunately Indiana has now been the first to dump this Common Core b.s., but they haven't said what they plan to do next...
The sad thing is, my kid got an education helper, and they spent most of their time playing word games like "She sells seashells" I mean WTF????

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Friday, May 16, 2014 8:16 AM

Aww, no one wants ta talk about math? I'm Shocked!

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Friday, May 16, 2014 8:44 AM

At expense to our family budget we hired a tutor many years back. Our Son is a math wiz.
No thanks to our government that provides funding for drones & the 'drug war' but will not invest in the future of America.

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Friday, May 16, 2014 9:13 AM

There's an AP article about the problems parents are having with Common Core.

http://www.wtop.com/346/3622629/22What-This-math-makes-blood-boil

The comments relating to this article are as interesting as the article itself.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Friday, May 16, 2014 6:16 PM

http://time.com/#38816/dads-rant-about-common-core-math-problem-goes-v
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I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Friday, May 16, 2014 7:11 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
At expense to our family budget we hired a tutor many years back. Our Son is a math wiz.
No thanks to our government that provides funding for drones & the 'drug war' but will not invest in the future of America.



Really most of her problem, as mine was, is that we have learning delay. Our brains don't mature math wise until later. And it's not that we're stupid, it's that all the little questions that everyone else ignores, we CAN'T proceed until we fully grasp the problem. We tend to be question askers and look at the problem from all sides, not just hit it square on. Schools just aren't set up for that at all. Realistically, people like us need to just go over basics for another year or two until those neurons are ready. I feel that if they had allowed me to mature into it instead of forcing me into it, I would have willingly gone to higher math and liked it, rather than getting fed up with it and dropping it on the first opportunity...

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Friday, May 16, 2014 7:26 PM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:


Really most of her problem, as mine was, is that we have learning delay. Our brains don't mature math wise until later.

IE problem students. No time for that. "F" for you.

Some schools care, others will be like the above.

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Friday, May 16, 2014 7:54 PM

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Originally posted by M52NICKERSON:
http://time.com/#38816/dads-rant-about-common-core-math-problem-goes-v
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I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.



So can anyone explain how to solve this problem using the "number line"?




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Friday, May 16, 2014 8:05 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
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Originally posted by M52NICKERSON:
http://time.com/#38816/dads-rant-about-common-core-math-problem-goes-v
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I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.



So can anyone explain how to solve this problem using the "number line"?





I'd have to have the convoluted thinking behind the concept explained first. I'd just do the actual math as well.

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Friday, May 16, 2014 8:22 PM

Something tells me that whatever benefit may be reaped from this new method is utterly being squashed by the simple fact that they forgot to consider the parents.

Some kind of helpful information sheet for the parents, explaining what the heck a "place value" or "number disc" is might have been a good idea?

Or did they do that and it just didn't work?

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