Serenity's deleted scenes...
POSTED BY: chrisisall
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I don't think it matters what the original concept of who Mal was matters. What I think matters is what the concept of Mal was during the taping of the show and movie and what Nathan brought to the role. That differed greatly from the original concept. Mal was raised through rose colored glasses until the war of independence showed him what the verse was really like. Harsh and cruel. It took from him all he loved but he tried to create a new family aboard Serenity. A family who according to Book, he was very protective of.
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Quote:Mal is transparent to Jose Molina and Joss Whedon, even when the other characters in the show and the show's audience are being mesmerized by Mal's obvious charms. Mal is a mystery to Inara, but not to Joss, who knows the character inside out. (Joss needs to do some serious explaining if he doesn't know Mal yet.)
Originally posted by MIKER:
I don't think it matters what the original concept of who Mal was matters. What I think matters is what the concept of Mal was during the taping of the show and movie and what Nathan brought to the role. That differed greatly from the original concept. Mal was raised through rose colored glasses until the war of independence showed him what the verse was really like. Harsh and cruel. It took from him all he loved but he tried to create a new family aboard Serenity. A family who according to Book, he was very protective of.
Besides being able to survive his catastrophic mistakes, Mal's bigger achievement is to catalyze other people's loyalty in Mal. He is a natural born leader. His orders aren't good, but that's the way it is – some are worse than others.
Mal's followers see what they want to see in Mal. The Leaves on the Wind comic, still running, has ex-Browncoats imagining that Mal can be their new leader in overthrowing the Alliance. Too much imagination gets those Browncoats killed, so they never learn that Mal is not the genius strategist they think he is. I'm sure that Jose Molina and Joss Whedon understand the tricks that Mal's legend (and Nathan Fillion's personality ) can play on people's brains.
All this blind loyalty probably disturbs the hell out of Mal. He doesn't feel worthy of it and that's why he becomes a recluse in Jose Molina's story "Take the Sky".
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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I don't have "Take The Sky" because I read a review that mentioned that story. I tend not to like 'what-became-of' stories.
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Quote:It is the final story in both books. I sure do hope the comic sends Mal to a different fate than the one in "Take The Sky", something more glorious than an eventual death notice to the crew sent by a court appointed backwoods lawyer handling the paperwork on Mal's tiny estate. Mal deserves better. We might know soon whether or not Mal fades into insignificance because the next comic issue comes out on Wednesday. Last issue is two months away. Hoping the best for Mal, fearing for the worst.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
I don't have "Take The Sky" because I read a review that mentioned that story. I tend not to like 'what-became-of' stories.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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I guess I should have read more comics as a child. I have those left behind and Better days and I noticed something very different from the series and the books. The characters in the books all seem to be of super hero status. Everything is exaggerated to the extreme. In the series, stories like Ariel or Objects in Space had some thought behind them. I don't get that with the comics. Maybe as I look further into it I will see some character development but for now it just seems to me to be shootem up stuff.
What is next in line after Better Days?
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Originally posted by ecgordon:
The only one I think needed to be in the film is Mal and Inara in the shuttle, when he asked "Why did you leave?" and her reply is "Why didn't you ask me to stay?"
wo men ren ran zai fei xing.
That's my choice and I think it would have made the movie better. Great scene. It would have extended a break in the action and enhanced the character plot of the two.
si shen
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Originally posted by femmefan1946:
Other than he's ruggedly handsome,and it works for the story, why is Inara so smitten w/ him ?
We got that answer in the pilot episode. Mal is a mystery, as "so few men are." b]
And, Core or no, her own family background is questionable. At what age do Companions start training to be, in effect, sex therapists? If they are introduced as available for hire at 18, how young do they start training? And what sort of family encourages their children to go into such a 'respectable ' profession?
Let's see if I can do this. I looks pretty simple. If my quotes come out screwed up...oh well.
I seem to remember Inara saying to her client in the shows pilot she was born there. Maybe many companions are simply the children of other companions.
si shen
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
I seem to remember Inara saying to her client in the shows pilot she was born there. Maybe many companions are simply the children of other companions.
Inara said she was born on Sihnon, one of the Core planets. I'm pretty sure she did not say she was born in a Companion training house.
wo men ren ran zai fei xing.
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Originally posted by ecgordon:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
What does Inara see in Mal ?
Other than he's ruggedly handsome,and it works for the story, why is Inara so smitten w/ him ?
We got that answer in the pilot episode. Mal is a mystery, as "so few men are."
wo men ren ran zai fei xing.
Everybody tells her she is beautiful, etc. Not Mal. He doesn't pay her, she pays him rent - it's a business relationship, which under PC rules means romantically off limits.
Maybe those are parts of the mystery, or the intrigue which made her look at the mystery that is Mal.
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Originally posted by THGRRI:Quote:
Originally posted by femmefan1946:Quote:Quote:
Other than he's ruggedly handsome,and it works for the story, why is Inara so smitten w/ him ?
We got that answer in the pilot episode. Mal is a mystery, as "so few men are."
And, Core or no, her own family background is questionable. At what age do Companions start training to be, in effect, sex therapists? If they are introduced as available for hire at 18, how young do they start training? And what sort of family encourages their children to go into such a 'respectable ' profession?
Let's see if I can do this. I looks pretty simple. If my quotes come out screwed up...oh well.
I seem to remember Inara saying to her client in the shows pilot she was born there. Maybe many companions are simply the children of other companions.
si shen
I thought Companion training started around 12 or earlier. Forget where I got that - was it in Official Companion? Or deleted scenes? Or script with Sheydra?
Like ECG said, she was born on Sihnon.
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