No, the Sun actually DOES revolve around the earth!
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For those who enjoyed "Age of Global Warming", here's another one they can hang their hat on:Quote:
Just when you think they can’t get any more fringey, the right-wing fringe moves the goal posts. Believe it or not, there are still some who think that the Earth is the center of the universe. No, really.
Hopefully, you’ve been able to pick your jaw up off the floor. I did the same thing when I first read about this. That there are still people who could believe that the earth is the center of the universe is bad enough. Add to that the belief that the Earth does not move and you’ve entered a world of true insanity. This world has a name: Galileo Was Wrong ( http://galileowaswrong.com/). And it has a king: Robert Sungenis is a rabid Roman Catholic who really misses the heyday of the Church. Because the Inquisition and Crusades were so much fun.
This return to the Dark Ages has resulted in a “documentary” called The Principle. In the film, Sungenis presents his cockamamie theory with the aid of CGI and some (I have to admit) rather pretty cinematography. He even managed to dupe convince actual scientists like Michio Kaku, Max Tegmart and Lawrence Krauss to be in the movie. I’m going to go out on a limb here and guess that they weren’t filled in on the premise.
But, to the shock of every Star Trekker in the world, Sungenis managed to get Kate Mulgrew to narrate. Our own Captain Kathryn Janeway! For you non-Star Trek nerds, that would be the Captain of the U.S.S. Voyager on “Star Trek: Voyager.” I think I can speak for every Star Trek nerd when I say, “She must have been under the control of the Borg!” I hope. [See below]
So, upon what amazing bit of heretofore unknown scientific knowledge does Sungenis base his geocentric theory? That would be the Bible. Oh yeah, you knew it had to be. And, as you might guess, there’s a book to be promoted. Galileo Was Wrong: The Church Was Right posits that the Church Fathers were correct in “… believing that the Earth, based on a face value reading of Scripture, was standing still in the center of the universe…”
No. No, they were not. But, in Sungenis’ wacky world, they were. And those nut cases Copernicus and Galileo were just wrong. But the Church, it was infallible. This is important to Sungenis because, he says, before Galileo the Church was “… in full command of the world, and governments and academia were subservient to her.”
Well, there’s your problem, Sparky. You’re stuck in the Dark Ages. Well, even more so than the rest of the right-wing fringe. Of course, with the average American’s knowledge of science being what it is (dismal), it’s probably pretty easy to convince biblical literalists that Galileo and every scientist since was flat-out wrong. With 1 in 4 Americans not even knowing that the Earth circles the sun — according to a National Science Foundation poll — it’s a simple step to believing that the sun revolves around the Earth.
Oh yes, Mr. Sungenis’ crazy doesn’t stop with his geocentricity. No, he goes much deeper; into the ugly and racist land of holocaust denial. But it’s even worse than that. Sungenis is a member of the radical Society of St. Pius X. He heads up the sub-sect, Catholic Apologetics International, which he founded in 1993. This is a traditional Catholic group which believes that the Jews conspired with Satan to destroy the Catholic Church. The Society is quiet about their existence (I didn’t know about them until now and I study this sort of thing) but, thanks to the Southern Poverty Law Center, is starting to have a light shone upon them.
One of the Society’s tenets is that the Holocaust never happened. That, along with ranting about the New World Order and the Zionist connection, has marked Sungenis as a conspiracy theorist of the highest order. He has been asked by his bishop to stop with the Jew-bashing and to stop calling CAI a Catholic group. But, as we all know, it takes more than a request from one’s superior to stop a truly crazy conspira
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Kate's half hearted follow up still doesn't dismiss the fact that she had the script beforehand, and still chose to take the job.
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So what. Means nothing.
I met Kate one weekend at Vulcan Events in Tampa in 2011. She was a very friendly guest. My wife and Kate really hit it off, and they talked for a ridiculously long time. After a while, I just sort of slipped away and went to get one of those giant pretzels.
In the Star Trek "Captain's Log" dvd set, Kate gives extensive insight into Voyager episodes that she and the fans selected as the best ones. She also answers general questions about her experiences doing the show for so many years.
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Jongs, Kate is a kook.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
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getting an actress beloved by Star Trekkers the world over to narrate his tripe? That’s just deranged.
Actually, that's not deranged, it's pretty smart. Might gain him some ( false) credibility.
But as far as Kate goes, "I'm just a voice for hire." She's correct-- she signed a contract, she read the words in her script, she got paid. You can fault her for some sort of ethical lapse, maybe, for not refusing to read the stuff, or suggest that what she read was re-edited later without her knowledge to distort the meaning of what she read, but she did her job. Maybe shoulda turned the entire thing down, but that's a different moral question.
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Jongs, Kate is a kook.
What actor isn't?
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I she? That's interesting...I don't know much of anything about the newer Star Trek crew as people (except Stewart, of course), and never formed much of an opinion about her, except she did a good job and I kinda liked the character. We know so much about the original Star Trek actors after all this time, but I've never seen any of the other newer ones in interviews or read anything about them.
Kate is a kook.
And yes, "paid voice". I should think the actual scientists who were been manipulated would be more pissed off. The whole thing is kinda silly, for me the only thing it shows is how there are still some who are SO wrapped up in the Bible being "right" that they will go to such amazing lengths.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Jongs, Kate is a kook.
What actor isn't?
Touché .
But I was kiddin, just to rile ya up.
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Jongs, Kate is a kook.
What actor isn't?
Touché .
But I was kiddin, just to rile ya up.
Takes more than a few drinks of your fine rice wine to render my rile factor blurry.
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Quote:Say that to my face.
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Kate is a kook.
(I just wanted you to face me so Tuvok could get behind you.)
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