500 yrs in the future....and we still use needles ?

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UPDATED: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 16:57
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AURAPTOR

Saturday, October 9, 2004 4:23 AM

Was watching Ariel (again) and I noticed how many times we see the use of syringes and needles in Firefly. Simon uses a needle/syringe to put him and River to sleep. Mal uses another to wake them up. Later on still, Simon uses what to help medicate River ? You guessed it.

I mean, come on..we have injector devices NOW that don't even use needles. Are we going to see this corrected during the movie ? I sure hope so.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

NEEDLESEYE

Saturday, October 9, 2004 4:43 AM

Isn't this Firefly were talking about, where they fly in space AND ride horses, carry guns, herd cattle, ride in wagons...
Y'know, some medications may not be delivered properly with one of those new fangled injectors anyhoo.

Just sayin' :}

Keeper of Jayne's goggles. 8)

AURAPTOR

Saturday, October 9, 2004 11:50 AM

I just think that Joss didn't want to look like he was ripping off Star Trek. However, in Bushwhacked, Simon does appear to give the survivor/pre-Reaver guy a sedative in the neck w/ out some injector device.

The horses and covered wagons make sense, if you're trying to start building up a world from the ground. Horses and cattle are relatively cheap, and work right in w/ the eco system. Also because solar or fuel cell technology still hasn't quite been refined after 500 yrs.

Wash: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.

Zoe: We live in a space ship, dear.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

TRAGICSTORY

Saturday, October 9, 2004 4:02 PM

In all honesty, a needle is MUCH better than an injector. It hurts less, delivers the medicine/drugs directly into the bloodstream and is cheap to make.

A presurized injector injects stuff by creating enough air pressure to break your skin and slam stuff in. I'm not a docootr but AFAIK, it is only used if you need to innoculate 100's of people quickly.

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SHINYSEVEN

Saturday, October 9, 2004 8:36 PM

Simon also gives Mal the injector and tells him to anesthetize Kaylee.

Hell, it's 500 years later, and he's still sewing people up with sutures and digging bullets out of 'em with retractors. And I'm pretty sure that it's not SOP to put surgical instruments in your mouth even if you don't have a surgical nurse available.

NEUTRINOLAD

Saturday, October 9, 2004 8:52 PM

500 years in the future... and we're still using tables, chairs, and the wheel?

Yes, some technologies are long-lived because they serve the purpose SO WELL.
welcome to engineering.

Now where is my anti-grav pod?

AURAPTOR

Sunday, October 10, 2004 1:38 AM

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Originally posted by NeutrinoLad:
500 years in the future... and we're still using tables, chairs, and the wheel?

Yes, some technologies are long-lived because they serve the purpose SO WELL.
welcome to engineering.

Now where is my anti-grav pod?

You'd be surprised at how many things we use today that weren't in existance 500, hell, just 100 yrs ago.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

STIZO

Sunday, October 10, 2004 1:58 AM

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You'd be surprised at how many things we use today that weren't in existance 500, hell, just 100 yrs ago.

Yeah, but that number is pretty small compared to the number of things that have been in use for many, many, many years. (knives, hammers, gunpowder, rockets, telescopes, calculus, geometry, mathematics in general, etc) Besides, the new technologies are created by using the old ones in a new way.

Seeing as how Firefly is only supposed to be 500 years in the future, it makes very much sense that they still use needles. Take a look at the things we still use on a day-to-day basis that were invented over 500 years ago. Even the so called "New technologies" are based on older mechanics and principles.

Being an Engineering student I am finding this out more and more.

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POTHER

Sunday, October 10, 2004 2:37 AM

That's not the only thing... they've still got the same building codes at St. Lucy's...

...You'll notice the EXIT signs in the lobby at the main entrance. They look exactly like they did 500 years ago. Not even a BI-LINGUAL sign with Chinese, just plain old English.

...What you might also notice from Ariel, is how they land expensive flying-ambulances on black draped dollies, where one of the set of wheels of the dolly doesn't have its drape on it, and you can see the 4 wheels on that corner of the dolly. Amazing how Wash landed the ambulance so neatly on that dolly. He really is a good pilot!

:) But boy, I sure wish they'd make more episodes!

GWENHARKER

Sunday, October 10, 2004 2:58 AM

You have to remember that things take time to be created. 500 years isn't really that far off into the future, people.

Look at the Star Wars Episode II. They may have lightsabers and all this wonderfully 'futuristic' stuff, but Anakin still has to have a droid hand, while 25-30 years later, Luke can have a perfect prothestic. Doesn't mean there isn't some horrible side effect.

What I'm getting at is, people will stick with what they know works.

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