Has F*X learned its lesson?

POSTED BY: gojiro
UPDATED: Friday, October 8, 2004 21:49
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YT

Wednesday, October 6, 2004 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by ShinyLeto:
I am not trying to make a political statement.

Please try harder. Or take this elsewhere.

ZOID

Thursday, October 7, 2004 1:43 AM

EDIT: Removed by author, due to inappropriate tone and subject matter, with all due apologies to anyone it may have offended.

Cordially,

zoid
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BOOSTER

Thursday, October 7, 2004 6:13 AM

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B) There are a lot of closed-minded people in the world. Some of them are Democrats, some of them are Republicans, and some of them are something else.

Putting flame suit on first.

As an Aussie Browncoat this thread has actually upset me.
I know this board prolly resides in the US and all but maybe some of you should remember that the Internet is a global thing and that the elections you guys are having in your country are actually only happening in your country. Dont get me wrong, I am not anti-American, I like America and Americans and whoever is in the White House does not mean anything to me.

And since Fox is kinda owned by an Aussie I would like to throw my 2c in but the political debate between shiny and zoid has really put me off posting anything constructive other than to say that Fox will never realise their mistake.

As a final note zoid asked shiny to argue the political history, i appeal to shiny not too. if you guys want to have a political discussion start a thread about it, dont have it in a thread that internationals may want to contribute to.

Runs away quickly...

YT

Thursday, October 7, 2004 6:48 AM

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Originally posted by Booster:
Runs away quickly...

Please don't. I'd rather that folks who want to talk about Firefly in general stay in this forum, while those who want to talk about other stuff take it otherwhere. S/N seems to be declining.

Keep the Shiny Side Up

Wutzon: Psycho Grass, "Big Gravel", from "Like Minds"

ZOID

Thursday, October 7, 2004 10:03 AM

Booster, et al:

I humbly apologize for my previous posts, since they strayed from the subject matter of this thread. I was wrong.

There you go F*x. Wasn't that easy?

Respectfully,

zoid
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YT

Friday, October 8, 2004 4:11 AM

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Originally posted by zoid:

I was wrong.

There you go F*x. Wasn't that easy?

Maybe not. Such an admission by the exec(s) responsible might be a direct precursor to never eating lunch in this town again. I wonder if all network programming execs know, deep in their hearts, that they ain't really wearing any clothes.

But to return the thread to its origin, I agree that the decision by Fox TV this year to avoid introducing new series during baseball playoffs is an admission of a mistake, just not specific to Firefly.

Keep the Shiny Side Up

Wutzon: Aquarium Rescue Unit, "How Tight's Yer Drawers", from "In a Perfect World"

ZOID

Friday, October 8, 2004 9:49 PM

YT wrote:

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...an admission by the exec(s) responsible (that they were wrong) might be a direct precursor to never eating lunch in this town again. I wonder if all network programming execs know, deep in their hearts, that they ain't really wearing any clothes.

But to return the thread to its origin, I agree that the decision by Fox TV this year to avoid introducing new series during baseball playoffs is an admission of a mistake, just not specific to Firefly.

I agree on all the points you made; but you could take it a bit further. Unless one admits that a mistake has been made -- without looking to shuffle some or all of the blame onto someone else -- one has no chance of eliminating the cause and making better decisions. As a result, those execs will soon be 'dining out' (of town) anyway, or else F*x as a whole will continue to bring up the rear in the Nielsen's.

Clearly, F*x have fallen victim to their own ineptitude and allowed a chance at the golden ring slip through their grasp, by letting Firefly go before it had a chance to find its sea legs. DVD sales and the upcoming movie release (and subsequent movie DVD sales, I'm sure) are proving to be a gold mine.

Holding off on new series until after the baseball playoffs is -- I am certain -- only compounding that error. I would have never seen the promo for Firefly if I hadn't been watching the playoffs on F*x. They should have done then, what I suggest they do now: Premiere the new series, but ignore the ratings until after the playoffs and the schedule normalizes. Ignore that the numbers are bad. If F*x had taken a beating with Firefly, recognizing that it was due in large part to scheduling irregularities, they would have been reaping the rewards for a couple of years by now. ...Unless someone would care to argue that the only reason people like Firefly is because F*x cancelled it. I would counter-argue that people like Firefly because it is a great and innovative entertainment. Given a proper opportunity, it would have turned into a money-maker and the cornerstone of a surge in the network's overall ratings, and repaid F*x for its patience.

F*x' main goal -- as the distant 4th network in the polls -- must be to attract new viewers, and new 'eyeballs' for their advertisers. However, by denying their new series the broad demographics of the 'captive' sports viewers, they're failing in this goal of trying to grow their audience.

This is precisely what I'm talking about when I say that those who are unable to admit to their mistakes are doomed to repeat them. Until they are willing to take the personal risk and admit that they failed -- not just with Firefly, but with other shows as well -- they will only continue to make bad judgments, built upon the wreckage of previous bad decisions.

Respectfully,

zoid
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