Time to lower the lifeboats ?

POSTED BY: FREMDFIRMA
UPDATED: Saturday, February 15, 2014 22:43
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REAVERFAN

Monday, February 10, 2014 12:35 AM

I'm sure it's fake. Summer's not dumb.

WISHIMAY

Monday, February 10, 2014 12:56 AM

I dunno, she always seemed odd to me. And she's a ballet dancer/actress that's not exactly rocket science.

CANTTAKESKY

Friday, February 14, 2014 9:21 AM

Thanks for missing me, Niki. You're the only one. :)

Last time I was here, I wasn't so sane. I'm better now.

CTS

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Disobedience is not an issue if obedience is not the goal.

SECOND

Friday, February 14, 2014 6:33 PM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
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Originally posted by reaverfan:

The GOP is fucked because there are only so many rich, white, selfish people who think Ayn Rand wrote anything worth reading

There is a music video that has Summer Glau and she has a quote from her tattooed on her side. Dunno if it was real or not. Jus' sayin'.

There is a tattoo in the video at 1:05, but it is not on Summer.
Summer Glau's "Long Hot Summer" featuring Keith Urban

"I swear by my life and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine." - John Galt http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Atlas_Shrugged

Do Republicans get Ayn Rand tattoos to show to Libertarians?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

WISHIMAY

Friday, February 14, 2014 8:12 PM

Ah, yer right...I never watched the whole video.

Something about Keith Urban...He's like the elevator music of country music.

Everything is within two octaves and you'd need a microscope to find the climax of his songs.

Puts me to sleep, in that bad way...

SIGNYM

Friday, February 14, 2014 9:47 PM

So, when will liberals dump the Democratic Party en masse? Because despite the fact that there are some very good Dems in the Dem party, the leadership (President, party officials, many members of Congress, and a number of governors and mayors) stand for.... nothing, really. Keeping their chairs occupied. Not offending TPTB. Ready and willing to vote for any damn fool thing that feeds the rich or takes away your freedom. Just sayin'

SECOND

Friday, February 14, 2014 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, when will liberals dump the Democratic Party en masse? Because despite the fact that there are some very good Dems in the Dem party, the leadership (President, party officials, many members of Congress, and a number of governors and mayors) stand for.... nothing, really. Keeping their chairs occupied. Not offending TPTB. Ready and willing to vote for any damn fool thing that feeds the rich or takes away your freedom. Just sayin'

You see the very same thing in science: "Despite the unrivaled empirical success of quantum theory, the very suggestion that it may be literally true as a description is still greeted with cynicism, incomprehension, and even anger." - David Deutsch

Despite the empirical success of a Democrat's principles over a rival Republican's, the Democrats just can't stand firm against the cynicism, incomprehension and anger directed toward their principles. The Democrats lack all conviction, while the Republicans are full of passionate intensity, especially Senator Ted Cruz from Texas.

SIGNYM

Friday, February 14, 2014 11:04 PM

Where is the "empirical success"?

Guantanamo = still open.
NSA = busier than ever!
Stock market = floating on a sea of cheap money.
Jobs = still nonexistent.
Money = flowing freely to the banks. Ex-homeowners = out on the street.
Winding down our wars = with time out to break Libya, Syria, and the Ukraine.
Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) = a Presidential favorite!

Seriously???

I can count the empirical Democratic success on the fingers of less than one hand:

The ACA = possibly "better than nothing", but just barely.
Opening negotiations with Iran = may represent the REAL "pivot" in our foreign relations but too soon to tell whether this represents a real break with Saudi Arabia and its Al Qaida connections.

I can also point to the withering of the American Petrodollar as the world reserve currency. Not the Dem's fault- this was precipitated by Bush's financial collapse of 2008, when the Chinese realized they were yoked to irrational capitalism- but not handled well by the Fed or Obama.

So, like I asked: What empirical successes?

SECOND

Friday, February 14, 2014 11:56 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Where is the "empirical success"?

Seriously???

So, like I asked: What empirical successes?

More like the contrast between Hoover and FDR. Or Bush vs Clinton. Or Ignorance vs Competence. It is sad to say that Obama knows better but is a wuss and Republicans are very forceful about keeping things the way Bush left them.

Occasionally the Democrats will do something that the Republicans strongly oppose, such as saving GM from bankruptcy, but pretty soon, when the crisis has past, the Democrats stop defending interference with the marketplace because the Republicans get so very, very angry and start shouting about communism, socialism and stuff like that. http://www.forbes.com/sites/danbigman/2013/10/30/how-general-motors-wa
s-really-saved-the-untold-true-story-of-the-most-important-bankruptcy-in-u-s-history/

I forgot about how Dick Cheney & Donald Rumsfeld were pro-torture, but Obama can't put them on trial because that is too disruptive. http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/02/13/dick-cheney-has-no-regrets-c
td/

SIGNYM

Saturday, February 15, 2014 12:14 AM

It's not that Dems have left good things undone, having been prevented from doing good works by those nasty troglodyte Republicans.

Democrats have been pushing for and achieving regressive policies for a long time: Clinton and NAFTA (the "giant sucking sound" which destroyed about 800,000 American jobs), Don't Ask Don't Tell (DODT), Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), Commodities Futures Modernization Act (which brought us Enron), welfare "reform", and rescinding the Glass Steagall Act (which helped bring about the 2008 financial collapse). In Catholic terms, these would be sins of commission -not sins of omission, as you imply. And all of the blame belongs where it belongs... on Clinton and the Blue Dog Dems.*

Similarly, nobody forced Obama to go into overdrive on NSA spying and drone "kill lists", interfering in the Middle East, prosecuting more whistleblowers than all other Presidents combined, pushing for the TPP fast-track, and taking the healthcare public option off the table. We would have been better off if he had left those things alone. Whatever blame or credit is attached goes solely to him - not to the GOP.

*Clinton did ONE GOOD THING: he raised the minimum wage. Apparently we are bought rather cheaply, because despite all of the OTHER things that he did which brought us misery in the long-run, we were ecstatic with his short-term goodies and happy to vote him in again.

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