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An EP in the hand...

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UPDATED: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 01:45
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Sunday, December 15, 2002 4:35 PM

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Originally posted by Hjermsted:
I think Early used deductive reasoning and improvisation to learn the rest he needed to know about Serenity while moving within her.



I agree absolutely, mattro. At first I was hooked by the reference to 'readers' or psychics, thinking that both River and Early could turn out to be either...but then decided it was to be a battle of plain ol' mental tenacity. Early's reasoning power vs. River's. Although River is quite gifted mentally, is she psychic? A 'reader'?
This ep was SO well-crafted.

BTW: (serious digression here) where are all the activists who used to say 'there are no black actors allowed to do drama on tv'...remember them? apparently they're not checking in on this. Gina Torres just married Lawrence Fishbourne for Juno's sake! (he's georgous, elusive, shakespearian) Where is their fabulous press, amazing magazine covers of the two of them?
Early ...(forgot actor's name. ranting) just seals my point. Mutant Enemy/Joss'Minions created a black villain named after a Confederate general (thanks for the tip on that).



"People don't appreciate the substance of things..." Early

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Sunday, December 15, 2002 7:17 PM

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Originally posted by esme:

Early ...(forgot actor's name. ranting) just seals my point.



Richard Brooks, late of Law and Order and Good Vs. Evil

Cardie

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Monday, December 16, 2002 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by esme:
BTW: (serious digression here) where are all the activists who used to say 'there are no black actors allowed to do drama on tv'...remember them? apparently they're not checking in on this. Gina Torres just married Lawrence Fishbourne for Juno's sake! (he's georgous, elusive, shakespearian) Where is their fabulous press, amazing magazine covers of the two of them?
Early ...(forgot actor's name. ranting) just seals my point. Mutant Enemy/Joss'Minions created a black villain named after a Confederate general (thanks for the tip on that).



"People don't appreciate the substance of things..." Early



Activist checking in here... I don't know what you mean about blacks not doing drama on t.v., or what Gina Torres marrying Lawrence Fishburne has to do with it. I think the issue of blacks doing drama is not that blacks don't get to do it, but that they don't get to be the stars of it, and especially, they don't get to have stories that focus on black people as drama...

An example - Gabriel's Fire was quickly cancelled quickly - it was a drama about a black family. Also, two medical dramas starring black actors quickly failed - Gideon's Crossing & City of Angels.

Now - why these shows failed, I won't say. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, because I don't feel that I have sufficient knowledge. But so far as I've understood it, this is the current issue.

I liked this ep, but I actually didn't understand Jubal at all. What was the deal with him? Was he psychotic? Just a bounty hunter? A truly beastial guy? What was that last line all about? In short, while the episode was interesting, I wasn't wowed.

QT

QueenTiye, Companion Academy, class of 2006

Edited to add: Thanks for that quote - I really liked that one, and a couple of others that Jubal made... in spite of me having very little understanding of why he was making them!

QT

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Friday, December 22, 2017 11:26 PM

I didn't get to watch a recording of Objects In Space last week, too much real life interference. Plus, some Jedi thing. And snow.

Episode opens differently than the other eps. Kinda weird.
5 episodes ago we saw Simon regaling and reminiscing, and now he's at it again. Maybe he needs a beard and rocking chair.
And when Mal says we're all alone out here, we quickly see he's wrong.
For some reason, I noticed River's pic with a dog. But I've never heard reference to a Tam dog.

I really like the guest stars in the show. Have enjoyed Richard Brooks work before, don't recall him in space.

3 episodes ago in Safe I was irritated by Mal practically abandoning the Tams. And now I'm disappointed in Kaylee for much the same sense. And then she's fishing for compliments right after.
At this point seems to be the first time River's senses are confirmed, when Simon essentially says to Kaylee what River heard earlier.

And Wash is reminded he lives on a spaceship, dear. Missing the 4th wall?

How does Early know to play the Kaylee threat on Simon?

I like that River socked them all full of guilt.

Interesting episode, who would have expected it? Shows plenty of space to roam in for the 2nd half of the season.

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Saturday, December 23, 2017 7:44 AM

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Originally posted by esme:
Aha...multi-layers. Interesting... http://www.jubalearly.org/]

This was a good catch.

Jubal Anderson Early was a Confederate general who was born and raised in Franklin County, Virginia. Born in 1816, he practiced law before and after serving in the Army of Northern Virginia.


T

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Tuesday, December 26, 2017 1:45 AM

Something that lingers for me from OiS.
Not every episode do I recall River being happy. But by the end of OiS she seems truly happy and comfortable, in her exchange with Mal.
This leaves a resonance in my heart.

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