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Venture Capitalist Says "War" on the Rich Is Like Nazi Germany's War on the Jews

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Tuesday, January 28, 2014 3:45 AM

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Only this time, the top earners are paying almost ALL of the taxes


*Raised eyebrow*

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/12insprbulhignincome.pdf
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/08intop400.pdf

And that is without considering that stocks are not taxable, nor is money kept overseas, and various other loopholes.

Also, you are only talking specifically about federal income tax where the wealthiest pay 70% of the burden (which amounts to between 0 to 10% of their individual income), which is a faulty way to frame the debate. When you factor in all the other taxes, the top 10% pay about 30% of their taxable income, accounting for 50% of the burden, and the middle class pay 25%, for the other 50%.

People barely understand taxes or economics, and I'm one of them. What they care about is that the wealthiest 1% of the country do hold 90% of the wealth. Which has the same chilling parallels I already mentioned.

But at least you agree that the dissent and dangers are more like the French Revolution than it is Nazis. Because the Nazis thing is a stupid comparison.

I, meanwhile, am willing to concede that spending and debts necessitating this degree of taxation are stupidly out of control.

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Tuesday, January 28, 2014 5:36 AM

Your #'s are inverted. The top 10 % pay MOST of the taxes, some paying as much 50% of their income. Most of the lower income folks pay NO federal taxes.

The Nazi comparison is apt, if one knows their history, and how the Jews were cast as scapegoats of the woes of the people of Germany.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Tuesday, January 28, 2014 5:38 AM




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Tuesday, January 28, 2014 5:46 AM

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Your #'s are inverted. The top 10 % pay MOST of the taxes, some paying as much 50% of their income. Most of the lower income folks pay NO federal taxes.


Lower income is not the middle class. And as for the top 10%, that is not what the studies or the statistics say. The tax burden between the middle class and top 10% is about equal, in that both pay between 25-30% of their income in combined taxes.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/12/news/economy/rich-taxes/

Huff Post argues similar numbers, although they claim that the 1% contribute 30% of the burden which may be correct.

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The Nazi comparison is apt, if one knows their history, and how the Jews were cast as scapegoats of the woes of the people of Germany.



It's not apt because the analogy fails in a number of ways.

Even assuming a rather offensive stereotype that Nazis blamed Jews for banking practices that led to the failure of the Weimar Republic, that all Jews are bankers, and all rich Americans are bankers, that analogy fails because it is based on two falsehoods.

And that doesn't get into the fact that the Nazi hatred of the Jews had a eugenicist racial element that a dislike of the rich lacks, and that even Jewish bankers were living in Jewish ghettos by the time of Kristalnacht due to centuries of prejudice and oppression, whereas the rich hardly live in ghettos and except possibly for taxes can hardly be considered oppressed.

That they are in danger I don't disagree, but they can't say that this is like the Nazis until they can pony up some skeletal pictures of them starving that aren't young heiresses being anorexic.

Until then it just sounds like poor rich people whining about first world problems and ima mock the shit out of that.

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Tuesday, January 28, 2014 6:58 AM

Second, trolls are consistent, intentional frauds. Being a fraud doesn't mean one is not a troll, they go hand in hand.

Byte, I hate to see you wasting your time actually trying to communicate with, much less debate, our resident troll. Surely by now you've realized it goes nowhere, and you're the last person I'd expect to get caught by his bait of posting fraudulent "facts". I thought you'd have caught on to the fact that responding to him in any way does nothing but encourage him to post more idiocy and insist on it.

Surely you see Rap in the Wikipedia definition of an internet troll:

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a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.


Rap trolls every thread with a couple of sentences precisely described by the above; there is no intent whatsoever to engage anyone, and every time anyone responds to him, it's nothing more than an excuse for him to post further. Even if nobody responds, he posts again and again, TROLLING for some kind of reaction. It's gotten way beyond silly by now.




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Tuesday, January 28, 2014 8:14 AM

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Byte, I hate to see you wasting your time actually trying to communicate with, much less debate, our resident troll.


Because he is not a troll, just someone who believes differently, and no one else will give him the time of day.

I give everyone every chance to let themselves be heard, and allow me to then troll them.

Because *I* am the troll.

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Tuesday, January 28, 2014 8:29 AM

Byte, you are of course free to do whatever pleases you, I'm not trying to tell you what to do. I'm just surprised you haven't noticed not that a thing you write ever gets through, but it's your time and effort.

I will disagree on one thing: You are no troll; about as far from it as anyone here, and that's a fact.

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Tuesday, January 28, 2014 8:59 AM

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:

Because he is not a troll, just someone who believes differently, and no one else will give him the time of day.

I give everyone every chance to let themselves be heard, and allow me to then troll them.


Good call Byte. Resist the psycho libs peer pressure here. They desperately and maniacally seek to marginalize and dismiss AURaptor at every turn, but all they're doing is displaying their juvenile frustration at being schooled by him every day.

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Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:49 AM

And now Jongs is back. Decided not to hide in her "Kaneman" skin, I guess.

Oh, the rancid smell of desperate trolls...


*-------------------------------------------------------------*
MAL4PREZ: Clearly [The Rap]'s doing nothing but trolling now.
STORYMARK: And not even cleverly.
RAPPY: [My trolling] did its job, did it not? Easiest marks in the 'verse.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=57146
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Tuesday, January 28, 2014 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
And now Jongs is back. Decided not to hide in her "Kaneman" skin, I guess.

Oh, the rancid smell of desperate trolls...


Hey idiot, if anything "smells" here, it must be your fat unwashed libtard ass.

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