Nooalf Discussion
POSTED BY: m52nickerson
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 13:45
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Already most computers already default to American spelling, let's go one step further and having phonetic spelling that we wont be able to work out unless we all default to American accents.
Now that's what I call cultural imperialism.
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Oddly enough, my computer at work - Microsoft of course - corrects my bad American spelling to its good British spelling. It gives me a giggle every time.
I know I've pointed it out before, but when it comes to pronunciation, there's a standard set of phonetic characters in every dictionary. It would be interesting to take an American dictionary, and a British dictionary, and compare the phonetic spellings between them. Maybe when I retire ...
But when it comes to Asian scores v English-speaking scores - MOST European languages NOT English are phonetic AFAIK. I wonder how the French, or German scores compare with Asian. Also, do the Chinese and Japanese still learn ideograms, or do they use modified English lettering? I can't think of anything less phonetic than an ideogram. If they're still in use, then I think that eliminates non-phonetic spelling as the cause of score differences.
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Youv probably posted that befor, MAGON. And I've seen it many timez elswhere.
And I'v probably explained befor that Nooalf duznt specify a particular spelling for each word, just a sound for each letter, so It can spell your dialect az well az American English.
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I believe thats true, SIGNYM. While English language students are still struggling with learning literacy, kidz in Italy, Germany etc. can already read their math & science books.
I think its more than that. They are also being instilled with the idea that thingz dont hav to make sense or be efficient.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
But when it comes to Asian scores v English-speaking scores - MOST European languages NOT English are phonetic AFAIK. I wonder how the French, or German scores compare with Asian.
French iz definitely not a good example uv fonetic! But, even tho it looks worse than English, they at least claim that all their letter clusterz alwayz make the same sound, making it 1 level less mixed up.
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Also, do the Chinese and Japanese still learn ideograms, or do they use modified English lettering? I can't think of anything less phonetic than an ideogram. If they're still in use, then I think that eliminates non-phonetic spelling as the cause of score differences.
The Japanese hav 3 different spelling systemz, and they arent alerjik to reform. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_script_reform
I believe the Japanese score higher than everybody else for 2 reazonz:
1. They are smarter.
2. They work harder. Its part uv their culture.
The Chineze score better by uzing the ancient art uv cheating. They restrict their test scorez to the best students in the best skoolz.
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Interesting post. Any data you can link to support your statements?
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Originally posted by JO753:
And I'v probably explained befor that Nooalf duznt specify a particular spelling for each word, just a sound for each letter, so It can spell your dialect az well az American English.
So if people spell the way they pronounce, wont that cause problems in understanding one another internationally>
People struggle to understand others accents. For example, an American might struggle to understand mine, and I struggle to understand a Glaswegian or some Irish, Northern English accents.
Does that mean that non english speakers write words with their own accents?
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They can, but they will probably know the difference.
I believe pretty much everybody can understand the major American and British dialects kuz they are the bulk uv all the media flooding the world with English. Kidz learning how to read & rite who liv in little townz with weird dialects will be very good at riting foneticly.
1KIKI, Most uv the statements are based on general info, so Wiki can verify them.
About the cheating: http://world.time.com/2013/12/04/china-is-cheating-the-world-student-r
ankings-system/
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Originally posted by JO753:
They can, but they will probably know the difference.
I believe pretty much everybody can understand the major American and British dialects kuz they are the bulk uv all the media flooding the world with English. Kidz learning how to read & rite who liv in little townz with weird dialects will be very good at riting foneticly.
I dont live somewhere that has major American or British accent. Does that mean my writing will be unintelligible to the wider english speaking community, or do I have to write in a dialect that is not my own to be understood?
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Maybe. Dependz how far off your dialect iz.
My point iz that evn if sumwunz local dialect iz so far off that its effectivly a different language, the saturation uv media in American broadcast standard in English speaking countryz iz so hi that you'd hav to be living in a cave to not understand it.
I'v met people who I coudnt understand 1 word from, yet they understood me.
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So, you're willing to let people be completely unable to communicate with the larger world because they both speak AND WRITE a language uninterpretable by others.
All because you're convinced you're brilliant and your obsession is brilliant.
That's very big of you. Not.
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