Ghosts exist, yes or no? On the fence?
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Originally posted by Zeek:
Nope. Think of how many billions of people have lived on this planet. If there were ghosts they'd be everywhere by now. Since we can't seem to find them I'm going to have to say they don't exist.
My view as well. What determines who gets to become a ghost, and who doesn't ? Unresolved issues ? Hell, I bet most of us harken back to missed opportunities or lost loves of some sort. If you tell me that spirits usually just waltz to the here after, with out a care on their minds or longing to 'stay around', I'm not buyin' it.
I think ghosts are like alien visitors... they're in our heads, and no where else.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Nope.
When the body of evidence remains inconclusive after centuries of investigation, and positive evidence is often shown to have been falsified or used for charlatanism and scams, it is not unreasonable to be skeptical of any claimed phenomenon.
I am atheist as opposed to agnostic for similar reasons.
Ditto.
Exactly.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I think ghosts are like alien visitors... they're in our heads, and no where else.
I say this of all the major and minor Gods. They exist as psychological constructs, so their effect on believers is real. But they do exist outside the human spirit/brain and separate, independent, actual existent beings.
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Having heard two different Diocesan 'exhorcists' on the subject, I believe there's something, sometimes. Whether that is actually a ghost in the usual understanding of the term is another matter...
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Quote:Ghosts I've Known
Originally posted by VeraSamuels:
. . . I believe there's something, sometimes. Whether that is actually a ghost in the usual understanding of the term is another matter...
People used to say that the dorm I lived in my sophomore year of college was haunted, that there was a ghost in Hewitt Hall. The details were unclear, but the general consensus was that sometime, a while back, a student had taken his life there and now that same unfortunate soul haunted the dormitory. People claimed they saw things: the figure of a young man behind you as you brushed your teeth in the mirror, an apparition that always vanished when you turned around to investigate.
Some reported hearing loud crashes at the end of the hall, bottles breaking, garbage cans being hurled about. One student swore that every time she went into the co-ed bathrooms a faucet would inexplicably turn off and on by itself. But I never saw or heard anything. And I haunted that dorm far more than any ghost.
( Dec 31 2013 from www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/12/ghosts-ive-known/282035/ )
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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"Ghosts don't haunt us. That's not how it works. They're present
among us because we won't let go of them." ~Sue Grafton
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I will say one time, I thought I saw the image of a person descend a set of stairs, but I was completely alone and lucid at the time. I have a hard time turning off my brain at night and I think I see a LOT of things that aren't there, so, I dunno.....
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When my favorite aunt died, quite expectedly, she appeared
to me in a dream, riding by, smiling ear to ear, very happy.
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It would help if you could define what you consider "ghosts" for the purposes of discussion.
Since you haven't, I must say yes. No fence straddling.
If following posters could specify spirit, demon, unascended ghost (stranded, hasn't left yet), waiting spirit/ghost (between death and funeral), haunting, or whatever else, that would help.
Also, audio, physcho, kinetic, visible, sixth sense, whichever.
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