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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I bait folks into insulting me, which otherwise they'd NEVER have done on their own ? Really ?
Yes. You piss people off because you refuse to engage in discusions.
I'm still waiting for a responce to this...
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Originally posted by M52NICKERSON:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Nope. not proven wrong. Dismissing my point as you disparage me = ad hominem. These tedious , pointless little side arguments of the Left are classic Saul Alinky distractions. " Play the man, not the ball ", is often used in sports, meaning go after the opponent and don't bother w/ the actual POINT of the game.
People addressing your points and asking your opinion is not dismissing your points.
You fail again.
You have also been the one avoiding making an staments on the original topic and have not posted any examples as you said.
So you want to get back on topic, do it. Give us an example of how President Obama has extended the power of the president beyond the Constitution.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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Thank you, Byte, that was eloquently done and right on point.
There is absolutely NO comparison to pointing to an amputee and laughing at them. Limbaugh has made a career out of denigrating others...we all remember Fluke being called a whore (and by extension, ANY woman who wanted coverage for contraceptives, which of course includes those who need it for medical problems), and has anyone forgotten him going after Michael J. Fox? He lays himself open to being called a hypocrite by his own words and deeds; to chastise others for hypocrisy is laughable, especially the way HE denigrates others right here!
As it happens, I have a brother-in-law who's an alcoholic. I went through it with him because he lived with us off and on for twenty years; I put him to bed, got rid of the bottles, and have known others who have been addicted to alcohol or drugs. I would never put them down, they've fought hard battles; but they're not out there making a fortune off being as nasty and shockingly disgusting as possible.
The simple fact is that Rap's little "red pill/blue pill" signature is ridiculous, and someone pointing out that Limbaugh IS a "blue pill addict" just as my brother-in-law will always be an alcoholic tho' he stopped drinking over a decade ago, is nothing but the truth. Rap's just playing his game; let him, it changes nothing.
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Originally posted by Niki2:
Thank you, Byte, that was eloquently done and right on point.
There is absolutely NO comparison to pointing to an amputee and laughing at them. Limbaugh has made a career out of denigrating others...we all remember Fluke being called a whore (and by extension, ANY woman who wanted coverage for contraceptives, which of course includes those who need it for medical problems), and has anyone forgotten him going after Michael J. Fox? He lays himself open to being called a hypocrite by his own words and deeds; to chastise others for hypocrisy is laughable, especially the way HE denigrates others right here!
Rush certainly has NOT " made a career out of denigrating others ", though it's true that some who have deserved denigration have received it. It's crystal clear that you do NOT listen to Rush, you only rely on what MediaMatters tells you he said.
25 years of broadcasting, and all you have is Sandra Fluke ? For wanting OTHER PEOPLE to pay for that which is already widely available, NOW ?
He never " went after " Michael J. Fox. He honestly said what MJF later ADMITTED TO DOING !!! How the hell does that not sink into your brain? RUSH WAS 100% RIGHT !
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I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication. It seemed to me that this occasion demanded that my testimony about the effects of the disease, and the urgency we as a community were feeling, be seen as well as heard. For people who had never observed me in this kind of shape, the transformation must have been startling
Michael J. Fox, Lucky Man
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_J._Fox#Illness_and_activism
And that's all Rush did was to repeat what MJF SAID HE DOES HIMSELF ! Rush wasn't " bashing " or " attacking " him for doing that, he was just being straight forward and honest about what ACTUALLY goes on.
Now, to be fair, Rush was taking issue with MJF trying to gain undue sympathy, under the guise that EMBRYONIC Stem cells are the only cure, when in fact, they aren't. Our OWN stem cells have a far better track record, as evidence 4 years later, than the harvesting of EMBRYONIC stem cells.
Seriously, some of you joke that I'm the one who isn't savvy enough, intelligent enough or learned on certain issues to understand CONTEXT, but it's clear you put a bag over your head and shove it in the ground when the issues is something you just can't accept.
So, once again, Niki, everything you thought you knew... is WRONG.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Rush certainly has NOT " made a career out of denigrating others ",
And rappy gets the "guffaw of the morning" award from me!
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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And if you listened, you could hear a big guffaw from over here, too.
What Rap wrote is a flat-out lie.
Limbaugh: "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease," Limbaugh told listeners. "He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. . . ." ( http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/24/AR2006
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"Anyone who knows the disease well would regard his movement as classic severe Parkinson's disease," said Elaine Richman, a neuroscientist in Baltimore who co-wrote "Parkinson's Disease and the Family." "Any other interpretation is misinformed."
Whether Fox took his meds or not isn't the issue; it wasn't an act. Limbaugh had to back track later on. He was forced eventually to give one of his non-apology apologies: Quote:
"Now people are telling me they have seen Michael J. Fox in interviews and he does appear the same way in the interviews as he does in this commercial," Limbaugh said, according to a transcript on his Web site. "All right then, I stand corrected. . . . So I will bigly, hugely admit that I was wrong, and I will apologize to Michael J. Fox, if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act."
Of course, he then immediately pivoted to a different critique: "Michael J. Fox is allowing his illness to be exploited and in the process is shilling for a Democratic politician."
Rap is quite free to write whatever lies he wants, but they won't be allowed to stand. I gave two examples everyone remembers; there's no need to give more, and yes, I've heard Limbaugh speak...not for long, because my stomach started churning too much to endure it. I've also read his transcripts when an issue has come up, gone directly to the transcript and often QUOTED from the transcript. Rap's blind worship of Limbaugh notwithstanding, anyone who's heard him has no doubts that everyone's fair game for his shock-jock tactics.
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Too little medication or too much can cause as many problems as the disease itself. Quote:
Well, actually, I've been erring on the side of caution — I think 'erring' is actually the right word — in that I've been medicating perhaps too much, in the sense [that] ... the symptoms ... people see in some of these interviews that I have been on are actually dyskinesia, which is a reaction to the medication. Because if I were purely symptomatic with Parkinson's symptoms, a lot of times speaking is difficult. There's a kind of a cluttering of speech and it's very difficult to sit still, to sit in one place. You know, the symptoms are different, so I'd rather kind of suffer the symptoms of dyskinesia... this kind of weaving and this kind of continuous thing is much preferable, actually, than pure Parkinson's symptoms. So that's what I generally do... I haven't had any, you know, problems with pure Parkinson's symptoms in any of these interviews, because I'll tend to just make sure that I have enough Sinemet in my system and, in some cases, too much. But to me, it's preferable. It's not representative of what I'm like in my everyday life. I get a lot of people with Parkinson's coming up to me saying, "You take too much medication." I say, Well, you sit across from Larry King and see if you want to tempt it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_J._Fox#Illness_and_activism
In other words, if Fox didn't take medication so that people could see the ACTUAL effects of the disease, that's not "faking it" or "an act", period. If he over-medicated in hopes of NOT showing the symptoms, that's an aspect of the disease as well. For Limbaugh to immediately leap to "he's faking it" is the issue, and the only issue.
Limbaugh isn't the subject of this thread, and I'm not going to be drawn into any more of Rap's disgusting efforts to defend him or trigger me. As someone who suffers from symptoms that, like Fox's, sometimes cannot be controlled or where the medications to control them can cause other bad symptoms, I take Limbaugh's bullshit and Rap's attempts to defend it personally. The mere fact that Rap is convinced people can 'overcome' addiction says it all for me; I'm tempted to wish he could endure what others have so he MIGHT understand what he's talking about.
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Originally posted by Niki2:
And if you listened, you could hear a big guffaw from over here, too.
What Rap wrote is a flat-out lie.
Niki, you're calling Michael J Fox a liar, not me, not Rush.
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Limbaugh: "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease," Limbaugh told listeners. "He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act. . . ."
MJF does admit to putting on a show,of sorts, to help make his case before Congress. Was Rush a bit vague and inaccurate ,in his description on his LIVE radio broadcast ? Sure, that could be said. But you're missing the context. As usual ( and I suspect, on purpose, to phony up yet more false , contrived indignation )
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Whether Fox took his meds or not isn't the issue;
Yes, it was. It is THE issue.
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it wasn't an act, and even Limbaugh had to back track later on. He was forced eventually to give one of his non-apology apologies:Quote:
"Now people are telling me they have seen Michael J. Fox in interviews and he does appear the same way in the interviews as he does in this commercial," Limbaugh said, according to a transcript on his Web site. "All right then, I stand corrected. . . . So I will bigly, hugely admit that I was wrong, and I will apologize to Michael J. Fox, if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act."
MJF was showing the world what the disease really does to him. True. That isn't pretend. It's not an exaggeration. But that still doesn't mean he didn't put on a show for Congress.
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Of course, he then immediately pivoted to a different critique: "Michael J. Fox is allowing his illness to be exploited and in the process is shilling for a Democratic politician."
Whether MJF saw it that way or not, it IS how those on the Left saw it. He was the poster boy NOT for a cure, but for their political agenda. The two causes are NOT one in the same, sad to say.
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Rap is quite free to write whatever lies he wants, but they won't be allowed to stand.
I've written no lies, what so ever. But your lies ARE allowed to stand ? Is that how it works ?
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I gave two examples everyone remembers; there's no need to give more,
Because you can't, the 2 given weren't examples in the least
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and yes, I've heard Limbaugh speak...not for long, because my stomach started churning too much to endure it. I've also read his transcripts when an issue has come up, gone directly to the transcript and often QUOTED from the transcript. Rap's blind worship of Limbaugh notwithstanding, anyone who's heard him has no doubts that everyone's fair game for his shock-jock tactics.
I've heard Obama speak, but that doesn't make me a flaming collectivist either. Saying you've heard him speak, or read his transcripts, isn't the same as KNOWING what the man is saying, his context, and getting the inflections in his voice, so you know when he's kidding and when he's making a dead serious point.
But carry on w/ your ignorance and your lies, Niki. You're batting 0.000 so far, why mess up a good thing ?
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Niki, you're calling Michael J Fox a liar, not me, not Rush.
Holy shit...what color is the sky in your world?
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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Originally posted by M52NICKERSON:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Niki, you're calling Michael J Fox a liar, not me, not Rush.
Holy shit...what color is the sky in your world?
It's a bit gray and overcast at the moment. Why, what's the weather like where you are ?
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Okay, I gotta get out of here. Rap is starting to piss me off, which rarely happens 'cuz I don't take him seriously. But what he's trying to say now is so outrageous it's unbelievable.
I'M calling Michael J. Fox a liar??? Omg...
"MJF does admit to putting on a show, of sorts, to help make his case before Congress"--no he did NOT. He didn't take his meds; ergo, he was displaying nothing but precisely the symptoms of parkinsons. That's what the Congressional testimony was about…how does Rap not get that?
"MJF was showing the world what the disease really does to him. True. That isn't pretend. It's not an exaggeration. But that still doesn't mean he didn't put on a show for Congress." That's a DIRECT contradiction, for gawd's sake! Exhibiting the effects of a disease is not "putting on a show" any way you cut it. By that measure, an epileptic who falls down and has a seizure is "putting on a show" as well...or a hypoglycemic fainting...or a diabetic going into shock...
"Saying you've heard him speak, or read his transcripts, isn't the same as KNOWING what the man is saying, his context, and getting the inflections in his voice". Say whaaa? Watching a video of Limbaugh speaking isn't "knowing what he's saying", "getting the inflections in his voice"? What alternate reality is Rap now inhabiting????
Nope. Whatever it is, I don't want to inhabit it with him. Time for me to dive back into the real world and do something constructive. Rap's desperate double-speak will have ME wondering what color the sky is. I'll leave him to twist in the wind and play with himself.
…wow…
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