Open letter to Firefly and Birds of Prey fans
POSTED BY: aDam
UPDATED: Thursday, August 10, 2006 19:02
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Dear Firefly and Birds of Prey fans,
Go sit over in the corner with the Farscape fans and learn about an exercise in futility. Maybe you can band together and try to get your crap show that everyone hates back on the air. Nothing like wasting a lot of time to keep a geek busy.
People whine and bitch about "good shows getting canned". Well you know what? Your show sucks. Firefly licks cotton balls. Birds of Prey is inexcusably bad. No one watches your shows because they are no good. WB will not pick up Firefly. UPN will not pick up either. These shows are not good and they failed because often the weeding process of canceling new shows that do poorly really works.
I reiterate. Shut up.
Sincerely,
aDam
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Yeah, Joe Millionaire and Fear Factor are doing well because they're such high quality shows. No, wait, it's actually because they appeal to stupid, lazy viewers with no brainpower, who apparently constitute the entire Neilsen viewership. Firefly failed because it's too SMART for idiots like you.
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Wow. A reality check from an idiot. I think I'll have to rethink my life. Moron.
Roman
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Wow my thread, which doesn't nothing wrong but present a point of view which differs from the popular opinion of the board, has been moved to "troll country". How tolerant. Losers.
I hardly see how a show being unpopular makes it good. I mean Pauly Shore's show was unpopular and guess what? That's right it sucked.
Some shows may succeed because of idiots but most of the time when a show tanks fast and hard it's because it's crap.
And Roman thanks for bringing absolutely nothing to the table. Please eat my crap.
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Originally posted by aDam:
Wow my thread, which doesn't nothing wrong but present a point of view which differs from the popular opinion of the board,...
... and insult us, call our show crap, and tell us to shut up...
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Originally posted by aDam:
...has been moved to "troll country". How tolerant. Losers.
It's here because YOU ARE A TROLL! You posted it for the express purpose of inciting animosity. QED.
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Originally posted by aDam:
I hardly see how a show being unpopular makes it good. I mean Pauly Shore's show was unpopular and guess what? That's right it sucked.
So every show that gets axed is automatically crap? Wow, guess this shows how gullible the average viewer really is.
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Originally posted by aDam:
Some shows may succeed because of idiots...
Some shows succeed because of idiots? Try nearly every show that's premiered in the last 4 years!
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Originally posted by aDam:
...but most of the time when a show tanks fast and hard it's because it's crap.
Yeah, the original Star Trek was sooo horrible, that's why it got axed...
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Originally posted by aDam:
And Roman thanks for bringing absolutely nothing to the table. Please eat my crap.
Oooh, and we can tell that this individual's opinion matters in any way because of his sophisticated manner. "Eat my crap," indeed. Shakespeare couldn't have said it better.
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Quote:You are crying about it uselessly. I'm doing you guys a favour by telling you to shut up but you're all too stupid to listen. At least I had a bit of class about it too. In the two very short replies I got I was called an idiot twice and a moron once. Of course now it's free game.
... and insult us, call our show crap, and tell us to shut up...
Quote:Wow you're so ejicate! You zall should gets a deegree for all them's fancy wordin'. Your vocabulary is terribly innapropriate for the Internet. I'd say it's innapropriate for pretty much anything but mathematical proofs.
It's here because YOU ARE A TROLL! You posted it for the express purpose of inciting animosity. QED.
I'm not a troll ass munch. I wrote a letter because I strongly felt this needed to be said to all the crybabies and then felt it would come to better use if I actually did something with it rather than keep it to myself like some loser with their web poetry. Of course now that I've been met with great hostility I'm sure I'll just come off as more of a troll so you can all keep thinking that and bask in your ignorance.
Quote:You're not listening. For someone who says stuff like QED you sure are stupid. Oh that's right you're just a pretentious piece of shit! What I'm saying is a show getting canceled does not make it good. That's like saying that because an innocent man goes to jail that anyone who ends up in prison is innocent. It's terribly flawed logic.
So every show that gets axed is automatically crap? Wow, guess this shows how gullible the average viewer really is.
Quote:There have been a hand full of good shows. Angel is pretty good. Joss should stick with what works for him I guess. I a few good shows in the past few years have been Even Stevens, Kim Possible, Roswell, Smallville and the Zeta Project. It's not a huge list but that's 4 excellent and one pretty good show which I'm happy with. Sure television has been mostly bad but it's always been that way. A person should never expect to sit in front of good television for 4 hours a day unless they're watching repeats. This isn't due to the fact that everything good gets canceled but because little that's good is made.
Some shows succeed because of idiots? Try nearly every show that's premiered in the last 4 years!
Quote:Again just because every once and a while a good show gets canceled doesn't mean the mounds of sucky shows that get canceled are worth the sweat off my nut sac. I wish idiots would stop thinking about the original Star Trek.
Yeah, the original Star Trek was sooo horrible, that's why it got axed...
Quote:Sorry I'm not a pretentious asshole who finished sentences with "QED" which is the pretentious equivalent to "0wned!" (note the O spelled with a zero because that's about the level of conversation I'm clocking you at)
Oooh, and we can tell that this individual's opinion matters in any way because of his sophisticated manner. "Eat my crap," indeed. Shakespeare couldn't have said it better.
I was kidding of course. I'm not sorry at all. If I ever end a sentence with QED I hope someone kills me so bad that I never come back. You know like they did to Firefly.
Anyway this thread was tucked away for a while since it's original posting. I guess the test of time has shown how successfull your geek campaign is doing. I guess when I learn how successfull it was that will really shut me up.
So what channel picked up your ass heap of a show? UPN? They pick up good shows that get canceled. Was your show picked up by UPN?
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Oh goodie, I love these types of threads. It allows me to indulge my "smash them up" side 
. Ah well, into the fray...
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Well you know what? Your show sucks. Firefly licks cotton balls. Birds of Prey is inexcusably bad. No one watches your shows because they are no good. WB will not pick up Firefly. UPN will not pick up either. These shows are not good and they failed because often the weeding process of canceling new shows that do poorly really works.Quote:
You do realize that you are disagreeing with more people then us, correct? Several critics, most of whom are far more intelligent (and far better writers) than you are thinnk highly of it. This list includes:
Positive Firefly reviews:
Mike Duffy, Detroit Free Press. Archived online at:
http://www.freep.com/entertainment/tvandradio/duf20_20020920.htm .
Ken Tucker, Entertainment Weekly. Archived online at:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/review/tv/0,6115,355225~3~~,00.html
Robert Bianca, USA Today. Archived online at:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/reviews/2002-09-18-firefly_x.h
tm
Matt Roush, TV Guide. Archive online at:
http://www.tvguide.com/tv/roush/rreview/021104.asp
Terry Morrow, Knoxville News. Archive online at: http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/tv_and_radio/article/0,1406,KNS_357_142700
4,00.html
Steve Murray, Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Archived online at: http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/living/tv/0902/20firefly.html
Chris Wyatt, Cinescape Magazine. Archived online at: http://www.cinescape.com/0/editorial.asp?aff_id=0&this_cat=Television&
action=page&type_id=&cat_id=&obj_id=36248
Patrick Lee, Sci-fi.Com. Archived by http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue282/screen3.html
Matthew Gilbert, A&E Boston Globe Staff. Archived by http://ae.boston.com/tv_radio/packages/fall_tv02/20020920_fall_tv_fire
fly.html
David Bianculli, NY Daily News. Archived Online at: http://www.nydailynews.com/12-20-2002/entertainment/ent_radio/story/44
935p-42298c.html .
Mark Davidziak, Cleveland Plain Dealer. Archived Online at:
http://www.zeal.com/exit.jhtml?cid=10124319&wid=100791445&so=&xr=/cate
gory/preview.jhtml%3Fcid%3D10124319.
Chuck Barney, Contra Costa Time (Contra Costa County in California, I think in the Bay area). Archived Online at:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/bayarea/entertainment/television/4105183.ht
m .
So that's one thing. For another, despite popular opinion, you aren't stupid. You've been very calculating in throwing this little stink bomb at just the right time to maximize annoyance. Good job! I hate you, as I'm sure most who encounter you do, but I can't fault your intelligence. Incidently, some of the most intelligent, well crafted shows in recent years have lasted one year or less such as Robbery/Homicide, Freaks and Geeks, Robert Altman's Gun, Action, The Chronicle, and Strange Luck.
Nathan
"It looks like a great adventure...That's what it is; that's what it feels like. When I saw the pilot, it was really engaging. It was exciting. It was unusual. It threw me off every now and then. I think people will be grabbed by it." - Ron Glass, on the pilot, during an interview with the Indianapolis Star
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Ok, if you dont like the show so much, why must you spend so much time here? Obviously if you think you are more intelligent than us then you would be better off doing more "intelligent" things...
-Joda
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You are crying about it uselessly. I'm doing you guys a favour by telling you to shut up but you're all too stupid to listen. At least I had a bit of class about it too. In the two very short replies I got I was called an idiot twice and a moron once. Of course now it's free game.
How is anything we do hurting you? You obviously came here looking to cause trouble. Now you whine because the fans of the show you insulted are angry at you. Tell me, have you ever walked into an Al-Qaeda camp shouting "USA! USA!"? Because it's the same principle.
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Wow you're so ejicate! You zall should gets a deegree for all them's fancy wordin'. Your vocabulary is terribly innapropriate for the Internet. I'd say it's innapropriate for pretty much anything but mathematical proofs.
And once again, aDam shows just how smart he is with his mastery of the English language. Which, by the way, I'm speaking properly because I actually paid attention in school. Tell me, do you refer to 4th grade as your "senior year?"
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I'm not a troll ass munch. I wrote a letter because I strongly felt this needed to be said to all the crybabies and then felt it would come to better use if I actually did something with it rather than keep it to myself like some loser with their web poetry. Of course now that I've been met with great hostility I'm sure I'll just come off as more of a troll so you can all keep thinking that and bask in your ignorance.
Oooh, "ass munch!" I'm so impressed with the quality of your verbal skills that I'm going to concede the point right here. Wait a second...
Why do you feel this supposed need to put us down? Do you really think we're going to go "Hmmm, somebody is calling us names, I guess that means Firefly is a horrible show and we should abandon it"?
More likely, you're a loser with nothing better to do than make fun of shows you're obviously too dense to understand.
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You're not listening. For someone who says stuff like QED you sure are stupid. Oh that's right you're just a pretentious piece of shit! What I'm saying is a show getting canceled does not make it good. That's like saying that because an innocent man goes to jail that anyone who ends up in prison is innocent. It's terribly flawed logic.
Pretentious POS, huh? Beats being a low-brow ignoramus. And I don't recall making any such blanket statement as "All shows that get cancelled are good." If anything, you've displayed just such fallacious logic by claiming that just because a show gets cancelled, it must be awful and not worth watching.
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There have been a hand full of good shows. Angel is pretty good. Joss should stick with what works for him I guess. I a few good shows in the past few years have been Even Stevens, Kim Possible, Roswell, Smallville and the Zeta Project. It's not a huge list but that's 4 excellent and one pretty good show which I'm happy with. Sure television has been mostly bad but it's always been that way. A person should never expect to sit in front of good television for 4 hours a day unless they're watching repeats. This isn't due to the fact that everything good gets canceled but because little that's good is made.
I don't see any difference of opinion here... I said "almost" every show has been crap. A handful of good shows do not redeem Hollywood-- they just prove that sometimes, despite their best efforts, an actual good show gets on the air. Now let's look at the bottom-feeding crap that's infesting our airwaves:
Blind Date
Fear Factor
Man Vs. Nature
Fastlane
Joe Millionaire
The Bachelorette
The Practice (used to be good)
Bridezillas (WTF?)
American Idol
The new Twilight Zone (GAG! Every one I've seen is hackneyed and predictable.)
Celebrity Mole Hawaii
WWE Smackdown
America's Funniest Home Videos (you can only see a guy get whacked in the balls by a football so many times, then you get sick of it.)
And of course, there's the myriad of crap reality min
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Quote:Well obviously I did not believe that the only people who disagree with me are the people of this board. Obviously there is a large fan base for even the crappiest crap.
You do realize that you are disagreeing with more people then us, correct? Several critics, most of whom are far more intelligent (and far better writers) than you are thinnk highly of it. This list includes:
Example! Tons of people loved "Kung Pow: Enter the Fist" despite that fact that it was the worst movie to come out last year.
This guy gives it a 5 star rating:
http://www.moviesforguys.com/comedy/reviews/kungpow-enterthefist.shtml
This guy criticises the public for not liking the movie much like all you guys have been doing:
http://www.daddymonkey.com/movies/kungpow.html
More senselessly positive reviews:
http://www.ram.org/ramblings/movies/kung_pow_enter_the_fist.html
http://www.hyperion-film.com/phpgate/html/article.php?sid=63
http://www.all-reviews.com/videos-4/kung-pow-enter-fist.htm
The opinion of critics doesn't mean anything. For one thing there are so many critics out there that you could find a mound of them to say anything is good. Critics are also way biased in favour of anything different (ignoring whether or not it's actually good) because they're so tired of seing the same old. Now don't come telling me I'm an idiot for liking only the mainstream because that can't be further from the truth. I simply don't believe something being bizarre is enough to make it good.
Quote:I don't. How many posts do I have? I don't understand what you're suggesting here. Are you trying to convince me that I actually like the show or what?
Ok, if you dont like the show so much, why must you spend so much time here?
Quote:Well I'm simply sick of hearing people go on about campaigns to save dead shows. Let the thing go out with a little class instead of a flaming ball of crap. Your analogy is very flawed. People don't have a problem with the Al-Qaeda because they went poking into their bunker caves. They have a problem with them because of those planes that flew into buildings and killed a bunch of people.
How is anything we do hurting you? You obviously came here looking to cause trouble. Now you whine because the fans of the show you insulted are angry at you. Tell me, have you ever walked into an Al-Qaeda camp shouting "USA! USA!"? Because it's the same principle.
Quote:I don't understand what you're making fun of. Did I make a typo or something? Are you not satisfied with my understanding of QED? I know I can defend against this attack adequately but you're so incoherant that I can't make sense of it.
And once again, aDam shows just how smart he is with his mastery of the English language. Which, by the way, I'm speaking properly because I actually paid attention in school. Tell me, do you refer to 4th grade as your "senior year?"
Quote:Pay attention idiot. I never said anything of the sort. I've been quite clear but you're obviously too stupid for my "low brow" level of speach. I guess that makes you look pretty bad since you're the one trying to put me down and it only serves to put you lower.
And I don't recall making any such blanket statement as "All shows that get cancelled are good." If anything, you've displayed just such fallacious logic by claiming that just because a show gets cancelled, it must be awful and not worth watching.
Quote:As I said most of TV is bad. I'd rather not see Firefly join those ranks.
Now let's look at the bottom-feeding crap that's infesting our airwaves
Quote:Saw William Shatner in an interview say that it's nice that people believe that the show was saved because of fan support although that's not what happened at all. I wish people would stop
I'll bet you do, since Star Trek: TOS is a shining example of what a fresh idea and a fan campaign can accomplish. With that out of our minds, we'd be that much closer to turning into brainless network zombies like you. After all, idiocy loves company.
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