Why does Jesus hate Freedom?
POSTED BY: Succatash
UPDATED: Monday, December 1, 2008 19:24
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The John 16:3 story (or other versions with Bush or Gore as the main character) has been debunked by Snopes.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/bibleverse.asp
There are three kinds of people: fighters, lovers, and screamers.
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ah well, thanks for letting me know how gullible I am.
I shaved off my beard ya know.
She understands, she doesn't comprehend
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It happens to all of us. The reason I picked up on it was because I just had a conversation with my mom about all the urban legends she has been sending me and one of the e-mails was this story. Kind of reminds me of the time almost 10 years ago when I sent an e-mail to a class distribution list asking for support for a little boy in Florida with terminal cancer who just wanted to get postcards from people. My professor's admin reamed me out good for that one. The lecture stuck.
There are three kinds of people: fighters, lovers, and screamers.
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Originally posted by CapnRahn:
Why is it blasphemous? It doesn't attack or defame Jesus or Christians.Its 'shot' is taken at George Bush and his cronies. Unless you consider THAT blashphomous.
Actually, it's not even a shot at Bush. Both campaigns run these kinds of ads. So it's more a shot at this type of stupid campaign ad strategy. And as such, it's hi-larious.
Of course, it's even more fun that it's Bush...
gojiro
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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
The John 16:3 story (or other versions with Bush or Gore as the main character) has been debunked by Snopes.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/bibleverse.asp
There are three kinds of people: fighters, lovers, and screamers.
Query: Is it not possible that his favorite bible verse is actually John 16:3? Having just read the Snopes page, I refer to former President Bush.
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Yeah. That's a possibility. But I'd like to read the speech GHWBush gave at the NRB where the author said he got this little bit from.
There are three kinds of people: fighters, lovers, and screamers.
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I wonder if someone could make a similar ad calling God a flip flopper.
In the OT God said "An eye for an eye"
Yet in the NT his son (and third half) said "Turn the other cheak"
In the OT he was Vengefull (sp)
In the NT he is a Pacifist
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Originally posted by gojiro:
Actually, it's not even a shot at Bush. Both campaigns run these kinds of ads. So it's more a shot at this type of stupid campaign ad strategy. And as such, it's hi-larious.
Well, this specific one is more of a shot at Bush/the Republicans because it has the flier politicize the 'war' on terror, criticize Jesus for being pro-welfare, raising taxes, and being soft on crime -- all traditional Republican tactics. That's not to say someone couldn't make a similar parody of the Democratics, but this one wouldn't be it.
Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.
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Originally posted by rue:
Just some general thoughts: did you all ever notice there are only nine commandments? (The Catholics and Christians each split up a different one to make 10. So when I read debates about public posting of 'the' 10 commandments, I wonder which 10 do they mean.)
The passage in Exodus called the Decalogue ("ten words") actually contains 14 (if I'm remembering correctly; my Bible's packed in a box somewhere right now) distinct imperative statements. To keep the "10" from "decalogue", Christians have traditionally consolidated certain statements. Consolidated everything that's clearly a single idea results in nine; the standard practice therefore has been to keep the two "covet" statements as separate "commandments". Catholic Christians and Main-line Protestant Christians still do this, but more fundamentalist Protestants prefer to consolidate the "covet" statements and draw "You shall not make graven images" out of "You shall have no other gods besides me", even though a "graven image" is just a particular kind of other god one could choose -- and a dated one at that. You won't find many people in the Western world worshipping an object as a God.
To make matters worse, these same Protestants then claim that certain Catholic/main-line Protestant symbols (the crucifix, for example) are "graven images" (they aren't, since it is what is worshipped is what the objects depict, not the objects themselves) and that our enumeration of the commandments is a deliberate attempt to hide the existence of that commandment (sort of a silly claim, since it is in the Catholic Bible).
So, yes, this is an issue with the posting of the Decalogue in public places. I'm not sure what version is usually used when that is done, or how much controversy the choice has ever made, but I can certainly see how it could cause problems. Of course, it's usually fundamentalists who want to post the commandments in schools, etc., and their enumeration contains nothing objectionable to the rest of Christians, so maybe it's not an issue after all.
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