Why does Jesus hate Freedom?

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RUE

Monday, October 4, 2004 7:07 PM

Just some general thoughts: did you all ever notice there are only nine commandments? (The Catholics and Christians each split up a different one to make 10. So when I read debates about public posting of 'the' 10 commandments, I wonder which 10 do they mean.)
I always wondered about the Christian emphasis on the Old Testament. I thought Jesus came to replace that with a new teaching - the New Testament. Anyway, according to him, there are really only two commandments 1) love God with all your heart, and 2) love your neighbor as yourself.
I never saw the word 'smite' in any commandment. Maybe my religious teaching was lax.

THEGREYJEDI

Monday, October 4, 2004 7:29 PM

Well, God once smote the blaspemous. In just in case He's inclined to do it again, I like to avoid them.

I know full well the difference in the OT and NT. I dislike those who call themselves Christians, but adhere to the laws if Leviticus and the other OT laws. However, there are side-effects of the two commandments that Jesus spake. If you love God truly, then you will automatically do what is pleasing in His sight.

But still. Just in case lightning becomes particularly attacted to the blasphemous and irreverent, I will stay over there where they aren't.

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SHOEFLY

Monday, October 4, 2004 7:39 PM

I hope I am not hijacking this thread (funny image btw 'Tash, ty for sharing) just want to respond to Rue's thinking that Jesus was supposed to replace the old testement. This is one way of thinking, but the one that I believe is that Jesus' teachings were mainly to bring the old testement law into a better perspective, not replace them. For example the two commandments that you stated (love God and love your nieghbor) can really only be done by following the 10 commandmens. Jesus I think is giving us the reason we have the 10 commandments by sort of summarizing them in the 2 he gives (love God, love neighbor)

Hope this wasn't offensive and again it doesn't hijack 'Tashes thread

CREVANREAVER

Monday, October 4, 2004 8:04 PM

JESUS WAS A LIBERTARIAN!!!

http://vote4rmp.rmpcp.com/christian.shtml

http://www.t2s2.org/tfpo2602.html

SIGNYM

Monday, October 4, 2004 8:14 PM

NAHHH ... render unto Caesar and all that.

CAPNRAHN

Monday, October 4, 2004 9:01 PM

Why is it blasphemous? It doesn't attack or defame Jesus or Christians.

Its 'shot' is taken at George Bush and his cronies. Unless you consider THAT blashphomous.

If you do, Wow!

Off-Topic: Bush truly reminds me of the President as portrayed in "Escape from L.A." ... ewww - George Bush Jr. - Prezzie fer life!

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

IAMJACKSUSERNAME

Monday, October 4, 2004 9:54 PM

Who would Jesus bomb?

Jesus the socialist pacifist:

"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;" Matthew 5:44

The "lilies of the field" analogy, Matthew 6:28-34

"And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." Matthew 22:39

"Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." Matthew 26:52

"One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor" Mark 10:21

"Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these." Mark 12:31

"And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages." Luke 3:14

"Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also. Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again. And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise." Luke 6:28-31

"And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again. But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again;" Luke 6:34-35

"Be ye therefore merciful [...] Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven" Luke 6:36-37

"And he saw also a certain poor widow casting in thither two mites. And he said, Of a truth I say unto you, that this poor widow hath cast in more than they all" Luke 21:2-3 (progressive taxation)

"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." John 8:7

"That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another." John 13:34

"remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive." Acts 20:35
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SHINY

Monday, October 4, 2004 10:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by IamJacksUsername:
Who would Jesus bomb?

Or more importantly, as an apocalyptic prophet who saw the coming of the end of the world, why would he even bother?

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

RUE

Monday, October 4, 2004 10:30 PM

also:

"'How hard it will be for those who are wealthy to enter the kingdom of God!' And the disciples were amazed at His words."
"'It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.' And they were even more astonished and said to Him, 'Then who can be saved?'"
Matthew 6:24: "No one can serve two masters."

MELEAUX

Tuesday, October 5, 2004 2:05 AM

Kerry recently stated that his favorite scripture was John 16:3. It was assumed he must have meant John 3:16 " For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have ever lasting life". That is a pretty standard scripture so that would seem appropriate. However, the faux pas of saying John 16:3 is ironic in that, that scriptue goes " They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me"

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