What movie surprised you the most, for good or bad ?
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UPDATED: Monday, March 4, 2024 21:18
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Hey Sleepy,
Thanks for your post. I do appreciate your point of view on film, and I've come to respect your opinion. Cloud Atlas totally surprised me, that's how good - no great - this movie is. I've watched it about 5 complete times since I purchased it and I find something new every time that I didn't pick up on during prior screenings.
It took a couple of viewings for me to absorb it all. Brilliant in script, plot, casting, pacing and theme. I have one very small nitpick - I won't say anything for now, I'll wait until you see it. Tell me what you think.
SGG
Hey Shiny.
Cheers very much. Likewise I can assure you.
So I have my girlfriend prepped for viewing Cloud Atlas too. I'm hoping next weekend we'll have the chance. I shall report back then.
Have you seen Captain Phillips?
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Rappy, the Old guy in you will thank the little kid by film's end.
Trust yer old film pal Shiny on this one.
SGG
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I never 'hated' this movie, though I have to admit , the first time I saw it, I wasn't all that impressed. Brit humor is an acquired taste. Now, I own the dvd and even saw Spamalot, at the FOX.
I've been tempted on Pacific Rim , as mentioned above. I mean, it LOOKS cool as hell, but stupid 'old guy' me won't let the kid me enjoy it, I think, for obvious reasons. I slogged through parts of Battleship, and it was about what I expected. How LIam Neeson was roped into that, I'll never know.
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Totally agree. I forgot to add that to my list of pleasant surprises.
Truly a fun film, plus entertaining. You're right Disney did a lousy marketing job. Saw it in the theater and people applauded at the end.
People applauding at the movies, how often does that happen?
SGG
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Originally posted by OLDGUY:
John Carter - wasn't even aware of the flick, and wasn't expecting much from it...but the neighbor's wife kept laughing at her husband for watching it like 15 times!! so I did a quick itunes rental one night...and I'm guilty of owning the DVD now with I think about 4 viewings on it.
Disney really dropped the ball with marketing that one.
It's a great movie, I wish I had seen it in the theatre.
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Have you seen Captain Phillips?
No, not yet. It was a toss up between that and Gravity. Gravity won, and it was awesome. Is it really as good as they say?
SGG
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By the way, Rap
The Holy Grail is awesome. That and a Fish Called Wanda, British humor is an acquired taste.
Carry On........
SGG
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Have you seen Captain Phillips?
No, not yet. It was a toss up between that and Gravity. Gravity won, and it was awesome. Is it really as good as they say?
SGG
I've seen both and they're fine films. A great testament that films are still well made and crafted with love for the medium.
Gravity certainly celebrates the wonderment of film and for that I think it earns my best film of this current century. I've heard a few negative things from certain quarters of the 'review' industry but in all honesty Shiny they're just being obtuse. I'm not saying that everyone MUST like a film if it's well made but I do think one should acknowledge the work and craftsmanship and sheer imagination that goes into such a film as Gravity. And when science is brought into the argument to highlight 'poor' film making... Well I think folk have just missed the point of cinema.
So for me you did well to choose Gravity, but now Shiny my friend... Time to see Captain Phillips.
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Originally posted by OLDGUY:
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John Carter - wasn't even aware of the flick, and wasn't expecting much from it...but the neighbor's wife kept laughing at her husband for watching it like 15 times!! so I did a quick itunes rental one night...and I'm guilty of owning the DVD now with I think about 4 viewings on it
Hey Oldguy. Yes it's strange isn't it that John Carter was much maligned upon release... But the negativity towards that film began long before. It was like; because it cost so much to make the 'critics' out there had already decided it must fail and all the build up was thus inclined. Very strange. I felt sorry for Andrew Stanton, because the look and design of that film was overshadowed by mindless resentment.
It's good flick. In time I think it's brilliance will prevail. As with so many of the greats out there.
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Quote:The point is that Gravity makes you just so incredibly grateful to be alive and breathing after a terrifying "ride." We feel as if it happened to us.
Originally posted by THESOMNAMBULIST:
Gravity certainly celebrates the wonderment of film and for that I think it earns my best film of this current century. . . . When science is brought into the argument to highlight 'poor' film making... Well I think folk have just missed the point of cinema.
Quote:Why does John Carter get much better the second time you watch? On the first viewing (and the only one for most theater audiences) John Carter didn't work as a drama because the audience don't know the characters' motivations until too late to care properly about them.
Originally posted by THESOMNAMBULIST:
Hey Oldguy. Yes it's strange isn't it that John Carter was much maligned upon release... Very strange. I felt sorry for Andrew Stanton, because the look and design of that film was overshadowed by mindless resentment.
It's good flick. In time I think it's brilliance will prevail. As with so many of the greats out there.
This is not a spoiler. You need to know before you see the movie: the reveal of Sola being Tars Tarkas' daughter, which is basically revealed the very moment before we're supposed to actually care about their relationship and right before they have a painful goodbye. The film constantly stages reveals where we'll be provided with some emotional flashback that finally gives us the character motivation, only it will be happening at the same exact time we're supposed to be caring about that very thing. The best example of this is when we finally get to the reveal of what happened to Carter's family... Only it comes right in the middle of a big, violent fight with some weird animals for some reason. Someone online called the film "rushed and stalled all at once." Filmmakers need to give us a good reason to care beforehand, and then just let us care. Don't wait to explain things to us in the last second.
When you watch John Carter the second time, you already understand all the motivations, and then it is a much better dramatic movie. There is more explanation at http://badassdigest.com/2012/04/08/film-crit-hulk-smash-hulk-vs-the-jo
hn-carter-script/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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EC, there are few times where we disagree when it comes to film, for the most part I really like your list save 3 films.
I would put Gravity, Skyfall and John Carter on my good list.
I know your reason for putting Gravity on Limbo list, but I approach it from a different perspective. I enjoyed, immensely so, the story and how Cuaron shot the film. It gave me a "you-are-there" kind of feeling that enhanced the storytelling aspect. I was riveted by the sights and sounds, but also by the performances of both Bullock and Clooney. It was as though we were in a dream, heightened by the action. But, somewhat like 2001 Space Odyssey, it transcended the story's arc and invoked feelings of the human condition. Towards the end, I got the impression, however brief, that Bullock's character had died and gone to heaven. It also could have been her mind playing tricks on her. For me, that's brilliant script writing.
With Skyfall, the only thing that detracted somewhat from the movie was Bardem's over-the-top performance. Also the scene where he shoots the Bond girl. Other than that it was pretty solid filmmaking.
John Carter also had some minor flaws, but it was an overall entertaining movie. On first viewing, I was somewhat confused with who was who, with both the bad and good guys. Upon second viewing it became much clearer to me and I was able to enjoy the movie much more. I felt somewhat similar upon seeing The Matrix the first time.
Could you please provide the link for your review on Ender's Game. I'm ambivalent as to whether or not to go see it. I need an outside opinion.
Thanks.
SGG
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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Just covering the past few years.
The Good:
The Tree of Life
Cloud Atlas
Hugo
Persepolis
Cabin in the Woods
The Avengers
Beasts of the Southern Wild
Moon
Another Earth
Into the Wild
Monsters
Sound of My Voice
The Man From Earth
Attack the Block
Inception
District 9
Pan's Labyrinth
Pacific Rim
Safety Not Guaranteed
In Limbo between Good and Bad:
Gravity
Man of Steel
Ender's Game
Upside Down
Rise of the Planet of the Apes
Oz, the Great and Powerful
John Carter
The Hunger Games
Cloverfield
The Bad:
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (I'm sad to have to put it on this part of the list)
Sucker Punch
The Master
Skyfall
Star Trek (2009)
Apollo 18
Super 8
Paul
The Adjustment Bureau
Total Recall
The Dark Knight Rises
Chronicle
Shutter Island
The Downright Ugly:
Elysium
Oblivion
Prometheus
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It's so true my friend, film, people sometimes forget, is art and subject to interpretation by the artist, namely the director. The very best ones take you along with them, but, at times, confound you along the way. They present but often-times shake the very foundation of our perceptions and pre-conceived notions.
A true work of art, like the aforementioned films, challenges, as well as, entertains us - the film lovers. I do agree that everyone brings themselves and their thinking into the theater, for me there is no right or wrong. That is not to say that all films are good, but like a fine Picasso or Degas, we see what we see. Film is an interpretation of life, brought to life on the screen.
SGG
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Originally posted by THESOMNAMBULIST:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Have you seen Captain Phillips?
No, not yet. It was a toss up between that and Gravity. Gravity won, and it was awesome. Is it really as good as they say?
SGG
I've seen both and they're fine films. A great testament that films are still well made and crafted with love for the medium.
Gravity certainly celebrates the wonderment of film and for that I think it earns my best film of this current century. I've heard a few negative things from certain quarters of the 'review' industry but in all honesty Shiny they're just being obtuse. I'm not saying that everyone MUST like a film if it's well made but I do think one should acknowledge the work and craftsmanship and sheer imagination that goes into such a film as Gravity. And when science is brought into the argument to highlight 'poor' film making... Well I think folk have just missed the point of cinema.
So for me you did well to choose Gravity, but now Shiny my friend... Time to see Captain Phillips.
:D
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