Joss new show Agents of S.H.E.I.L.D. What do you think of it
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He created a universe where China had as much cultural influence as any other country - and had, what - one Asian extra in the whole series (and movie)?
At least he tried with Zoe and Book, and I'm fairly certain there would've been more Asian influence in following seasons- he was still trying to just introduce the crew at that point....
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Persons of colour/Orientals and non-whites in the Whedonverse:
Buffy
Kendra
The first Slayer
Several vampires
Robin Wood the principal
Forrest
Chinese Slayer
Nikki Wood
Ampata
Mr Trick
Sweet the demon
Angel
Gunn
Jasmine
Asian lawyer
Firefly
Shepherd Book
Zoe
The Operative
Jubal Early
Inara [South America/native]
***
Fray
Devout Keeper of Jayne's Lunchbox
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Originally posted by Storymark:
He created a universe where China had as much cultural influence as any other country - and had, what - one Asian extra in the whole series (and movie)?
At least he tried with Zoe and Book, and I'm fairly certain there would've been more Asian influence in following seasons- he was still trying to just introduce the crew at that point....
Even aside from the crew, it always struck me as daft that they couldn't work in some Asians as any other characters. The entire 'verse was pretty lily white.
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Originally posted by VeraSamuels:
Persons of colour/Orientals and non-whites in the Whedonverse:
Buffy
Kendra
The first Slayer
Several vampires
Robin Wood the principal
Forrest
Chinese Slayer
Nikki Wood
Ampata
Mr Trick
Sweet the demon
Angel
Gunn
Jasmine
Asian lawyer
Firefly
Shepherd Book
Zoe
The Operative
Jubal Early
Inara [South America/native]
***
Fray
Devout Keeper of Jayne's Lunchbox
Im not saying they NEVER had minorities - but be honest, a lot of those characters appeared briefly (when you've got to resort to "Asian Lawyer" to say that Angel was diverse, you've shot your argument in the foot), and the list of white characters is a whole lot longer. Or re-write your list to be non-white characters that lasted more than one appearance, and its a pretty paltry list.
Im not laying it all at Joss' feet - to be clear. A lot of it is studio politics, but that doesn't mean the disparity isn't there.
And that said, having been unimpressed with the series at the start, I think it IS really improving as it goes.
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I know this comparison comes out of no where for the most part, but I just watched an episode of Once Upon a Time last night where they introduced Tinker Bell. At the end of the episode for some reason it made me think of the failings of Agents of SHIELD. I mean in one episode they introduced a brand new character and I care more about her character than I do any of the characters in SHIELD except maybe Coulson. SHIELD is improving but they really need to do some episodes that focus on these characters back story. I'm sure the writers have thought stuff up. It's past time to tell the audience.
I think they could really do well stealing the "flashback" tactic used so well by Lost and Once Upon a Time. Rather than coincidentally having the team go on a mission that super coincidentally has a great deal to do with one of the team's past. It's much less jarring to just have the mission bring up parallels to something from one of their pasts and just show brief flashback scenes throughout the episode to give insight into what influences the character.
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Interesting point, but really, Tinkerbell isn't a brand new character - sure, she's new to that show, but its a character you're at least somewhat familiar with, so there's groundwork already laid.
I agree they need to do a bit more of the "Case of the week ties to character's backstory" (having done this a bit already with Coulson's former protege) - but it can be over-used, too. That particular storytelling angle pretty much ruined Human Target in it's second year - because they made EVERY episode in that mold.
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So, they're adding a new cast member. Saffron Burrows will be joining the show as Victoria Hand - the first regular on the show actually based on a character from the comics (albiet a rather insignificant one).
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