Farscape or SG-1

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SNIPER

Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:45 PM

SG-1. Hands down for me. Unfortunently, that series will be ending this year, and Farscape has already been finished for a while, save for the miniseries. Go for SG-1, the boxed sets are cheaper.

LINDLEY

Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:52 PM

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And I still refuse to watch most of season six. :D

I've encountered this position a lot, and frankly, I still find it perplexing.

Season 6 was a refreshing change of pace. And while it took a while to get used to Jonas Quinn, he grew into a very likeable character.

In my opinion, SG1's downward trend in the last two seasons began with the way Jonas was booted off the show at the start of season 7. He could have continued to be a part of the show in a reduced capacity, easily.

Instead, the way his character was treated simply cemented him as exactly what they were trying to avoid him being: "The Daniel Replacement", and nothing more.

BIKISDAD

Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:57 PM

I see why we're disagreeing here - it's not about SG-1 at all. The problem is that your entire opinion of Farscape appears to be based on one or two episodes out of the 88 that exist. I could pick out one or two episodes of Buffy or Angel to show people where they would say "Dude, that show sucks". However, that obviously wouldn't be a valid opinion because they would not have seen all the great B/A epiodes that would cause them to say "What an incredible show!" The same is true of Farscape. There is an episode once in a while where I go "Ugh! Glad that's over". However, that doesn't really detract from the ones where I just sit in stunned silence afterward at the incredibleness of it.

I'm just saying, if you're going to put Farscape down in favor of SG-1, you should really get to know the real Farscape in its entirety and not base your opinion on a very small sampling of episodes.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

LTNOWIS

Thursday, September 30, 2004 11:10 PM

First off, I'd like to say that previous posters have achieved an incredible level of insight into the pros and cons of the 2 shows. I've never seen Farscape, but I've seen the original Stargate movie, and as many TV episodes as I can get (only 1 a week on evil fox, as I have no cable.). Here's what sets Stargate apart from most Sci-fi: it takes place mostly on Earth, in the present. Sure, they go off and fight aliens and save the day for most of each episode, but they always gate back to the base on Earth. For me there's just something fundamentally awesome about people fighting energy-bolt-armed aliens with MP5s and M-16s. The fact that it takes place in the present also lets you avoid issues about predicting the future and such. In 500 years, people won’t talk like they do today, or have the same hairstyles, etc. And there are always issues about the pace of technological change, like having spaceships but not advanced guns in Firefly. While it’s certainly not as important as characters or writing, you have to suspend disbelief less. Of course, in Stargate the aliens (human and non) mostly speak English, which you have to ignore.

Sometime I’ll need to see Farscape, though, if it’s so beloved.

KIRIKOLI

Friday, October 1, 2004 3:29 AM

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Originally posted by bikisdad:
I'm just saying, if you're going to put Farscape down in favor of SG-1, you should really get to know the real Farscape in its entirety and not base your opinion on a very small sampling of episodes.

I wasn't putting Farscape down at all. I was just relaying my opinion and the opinion of others. I know some people think it's a great show and that *makes* it a great show...just not to me. And not, in my admittedly extremely limited experience, to a majority of my friends.

You're right, of course, that I should really base my opinion on the entirety of Farscape. But unfortunately, with the number of books and shows out there, not to mention my college life, I simply don't have time to give everything its due chance. I gave Stargate a chance and found I loved it. I gave Farscape a chance (the episode was handpicked by an avid Farscape watcher as a good intro to the show for non-viewers, btw) and I wasn't impressed enough to give it a second go.

I'm not putting anything down. Just relaying my experience. I fully suggest the person who is looking for something new try both.

IDEFIX

Friday, October 1, 2004 3:27 PM

now I'm really curious what EP that was, that was recommended but didn't work.
if you don't know the title maybe you remember some of the plot. I've seen them all several times...

I was lured into Farscape by "The Way We Weren't" an early S2 EP where Aeryns past was explored.
I was recording Voyager at the time with my PC and Farscape was on directly after Voyager (I live in germany) and so I left the TV running while cutting my Voyager recording. and so I've halfways listened to about two EPs (they are badly synchronised over her so it's even harder to get cought by the german airing) and then "The Way We Weren't" came along and I left my Voyager EP on the PC and sat down in front of the TV after 10 minutes or so and then my boyfriend who'd already decided that "muppeds in space" aka Farscape is a dumb show joined my after a few minutes more and when the EP was over I went online and searched for more of that show in english.

now I have all the EPs on UK DVDs and am waiting impatiently for Peacekeeper Wars.

and I will sometime take the time to watch more than a half EP here and there of Stargate, thanks to you all. I've seen only bits and pieces and the movie of course and it all was very boring to me so far so I didn't get into it more. but I found B5 boring too, never could get into the characters all that much. I think B5 is too much plot driven as opposed to character driven. I love the character driven shows more usually. arc or no arc doesn't seem to matter to me so much als long as EPs reference other EPs and it doesn't seem like a new short-movie-of-the-week each time you watch an EP.

and I love this thread and all the different views here.

Idefix

GHOULMAN

Friday, October 1, 2004 3:36 PM

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Originally posted by Channain:
Okay, that settles it. Ghoulman gets *snoogles*

Mmmm... snoogles.

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So long as you'll forgive me for the Star Trek genome infused in my DNA (I was brainwashed at an early age), we'll get along JUST fine.

We have art so as not to die of truth ~ Neitzsche
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Well, I'm a big Star Trek fan. I still watch the old shows and love 'em! So smart, so sexy, and let's face it - still beats most Sci-Fi on TV today.

Oh, and Neitzsche was a liar.

About SG-1, there are lots of fans of that show and hey, it's a fun show with a great cast. It owes it's success to a sort of Star Trek lite formula and does it well. It certainly doesn't have the "emotional resonance" mentioned before but as a straight Sci-Fi adventure show it certainly delivers.

But like Star Trek and Firefly, a show must give us what we need to resonate for years to come. I predict Firefly will have the same lasting power as the original Star Trek. And hey, I feel that way about Angel and Buffy too.

Joss is this generations genre king... long live the King!

RADHIL

Friday, October 1, 2004 4:23 PM

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I was lured into Farscape by "The Way We Weren't" an early S2 EP where Aeryns past was explored.

For me it was "The Locket". I only caught the last few minutes. It was enough.

Which is strange, because I fell into Buffy (and Whedon) in much the same way. Both were shows I largely ignored - Buffy I wrote off as some teen show (and because I saw the movie - blech), Farscape because our cable channel didn't get SciFi and I didn't want to jump in when it finally did.

For Buff, it was last few minutes of "I Was Made to Love You", as I stopped in surf-mode. Anyone who knows the show knows what that led to.

Anyway.... *shrug*

Radhil Trebors
Persona Under Construction

KIRIKOLI

Friday, October 1, 2004 4:24 PM

The episode of Farscape was called Nerve, I believe. And the things I specifically didn't like about that episode was the cliche response of the characters, the mediocre acting, and the dark sets. I absolutely hate when shows are dark all the time. I know it's a mood thing, but honestly, I don't think it's worked since Batman. ;)

Other than that, I was just bored and the hour felt like two. *shrugs* But then, I don't like Buffy or Angel either, so I guess my tastes just run differently.

A good episode of Stargate to watch, if you're looking for one to be introduced with, is Window of Opportunity. It gives a very good representation of the show, it's funny, and it has its serious moment that I think they played very well. :D

CHANNAIN

Friday, October 1, 2004 5:15 PM

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:
Well, I'm a big Star Trek fan. I still watch the old shows and love 'em! So smart, so sexy, and let's face it - still beats most Sci-Fi on TV today.

Sexy... Shatner... sexy... nope. Not going there. Tends to start a gag reflex and I wouldn't want to ruin my lunch. I will agree with the smart and the beats most sci-fi on TV today aspects though. The Great Bird of the Galaxy knew what he was doing, that's for sure and for certain. Too bad he couldn't find himself a worthy heir, but that's a different rant, isn't it?

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Oh, and Neitzsche was a liar.

"Anything is possible in a drawing..." James Gurney

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:
About SG-1, there are lots of fans of that show and hey, it's a fun show with a great cast. It owes it's success to a sort of Star Trek lite formula and does it well. It certainly doesn't have the "emotional resonance" mentioned before but as a straight Sci-Fi adventure show it certainly delivers.

Like the kind of emotional resonance that shatters your heart into teeny tiny little pieces when its cancelled before its time? THAT kind of resonance? You know what - if a show is lacking some of that resonance, that's okay. Beauty and the Beast broke my heart first - Linda Hamilton decided to leave and all hell broke loose when gorram cbs decided to target another audience. You'd thik a girl would learn. OHHH no. Never ever EVER trust a network. They're all just long strings of commercials with bits of entertainment added on to lure the unsuspecting viewer. It's not about quality writing - never was. It's all about advertising.

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:
But like Star Trek and Firefly, a show must give us what we need to resonate for years to come. I predict Firefly will have the same lasting power as the original Star Trek. And hey, I feel that way about Angel and Buffy too.

Firefly, most definitely YES. Angel and Buffy, not so much. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed them both while they were on and I catch the reruns now and again, but I wouldn't say they *resonate* with me. I actually spend more time these days predicting which new programs will be cut short before their time. I thought Firefly would last because JW had proven himself - twice - that he could produce quality programming with moxy. I think that's what killed me.

We have art so as not to die of truth ~ Neitzsche
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