"Russia Plans To Enforce Anti-Gay Law For Athletes, Fans During Olympics"
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Oh, this should be fun...Quote:
Russia will enforce a new law cracking down on gay rights activism when it hosts international athletes and fans during the 2014 Olympics in Sochi, the country’s sports minister said Thursday, appearing to contradict assurances to the contrary from the International Olympic Committee. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/russia-plans-to-enforce-anti-gay-law
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Switching stations on the radio as I drove this morning (I get news on the hour and half-hour from a talk-radio station), I caught wind of this as a topic for discussion. Don't listen to talk radio so kept going, but the ramifications may be interesting. They CLAIM Quote:
“An athlete of nontraditional sexual orientation isn’t banned from coming to Sochi,” Vitaly Mutko said in an interview with R-Sport, the sports newswire of state news agency RIA Novosti. “But if he goes out into the streets and starts to propagandize, then of course he will be held accountable.”
Mutko emphasized that the law wasn’t designed to punish anyone for being gay or lesbian. But like the Russian lawmakers who authored the bill, Mutko said athletes would be punished only for propaganda, a word that remains ambiguous under the new law.
“The corresponding law doesn’t forbid non-traditional orientation, but other things: propaganda, involvement of minors and the youth.”
Will be interesting to see how that's interpreted. Previously, Quote:
The IOC said last week that it had received assurances “from the highest level of government in Russia that the legislation will not affect those attending or taking part in the games.” It pledged to ensure there would be no discrimination against athletes, officials, spectators and the media in Sochi.
And if you believe that...
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I found this funny.
What once use to be the Left wing utopia for how man should evolve, the former Soviet Union is now profoundly anti gay and runs its govt, quite well, on a flat tax.
My, how times have changed.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
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Brenda, I have some of the same FEELINGS about Putin, but I don't seriously hope anyone ever does. But I do understand. :o)
Wow, I guess I just got "educated"! When was Russia anyone's "utopia"? Can anyone give me historical perspective on that, I've lived 65 years and I never noticed that. Was it ever "utopia" to anyone here? And they run their government "quite well"? Where does...
Oh, wait, it's Rap. Silly me. What world DOES he live in??
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Wow, I guess I just got "educated"! When was Russia anyone's "utopia"? Can anyone give me historical perspective on that, I've lived 65 years and I never noticed that. Was it ever "utopia" to anyone here? And they run their government "quite well"? Where does...
Oh, wait, it's Rap. Silly me. What world DOES he live in??

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There you go, that's Rap's "reality". Explains a lot.
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My mormon grandmother served her mission in Soviet Russia.
She's not a socialist or a communist.
I think soviet Russia was one of those horror-fests illustrating that once any form of government becomes authoritarian enough, whether left-wing, right-wing, fascist, communist, despotic, theocratic or so on, they all become TERRIBLE.
Modern Russia just goes to show what happens when there was a single completely corrupt ruling party and the government collapses. It basically becomes a kleptocracy run by gangsters. And then someone like Putin shows up and seems like things might get better but he turns into a dictator and tries to end term limits for his office and creates a personality cult among the youth and starts conflicts with powerhouse nations for ego.
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There you go, that's Rap's "reality". Explains a lot.
TEXT OF KGB LETTER ON SENATOR TED KENNEDY
Special Importance
Committee on State Security of the USSR
14.05. 1983 No. 1029 Ch/OV
Moscow
Regarding Senator Kennedy’s request to the General Secretary of the Communist Party Comrade Y.V. Andropov
Comrade Y.V. Andropov
On 9-10 May of this year, Senator Edward Kennedy’s close friend and trusted confidant J. Tunney was in Moscow. The senator charged Tunney to convey the following message, through confidential contacts, to the General Secretary of the Center Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Y. Andropov.
Senator Kennedy, like other rational people, is very troubled by the current state of Soviet-American relations. Events are developing such that this relationship coupled with the general state of global affairs will make the situation even more dangerous. The main reason for this is Reagan’s belligerence, and his firm commitment to deploy new American middle range nuclear weapons within Western Europe.
According to Kennedy, the current threat is due to the President’s refusal to engage any modification on his politics. He feels that his domestic standing has been strengthened because of the well publicized improvement of the economy: inflation has been greatly reduced, production levels are increasing as is overall business activity. For these reasons, interest rates will continue to decline. The White House has portrayed this in the media as the "success of Reaganomics."
Naturally, not everything in the province of economics has gone according to Reagan’s plan. A few well known economists and members of financial circles, particularly from the north-eastern states, foresee certain hidden tendencies that many bring about a new economic crisis in the USA. This could bring about the fall of the presidential campaign of 1984, which would benefit the Democratic party. Nevertheless, there are no secure assurances this will indeed develop.
The only real threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations. These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign. The movement advocating a freeze on nuclear arsenals of both countries continues to gain strength in the United States. The movement is also willing to accept preparations, particularly from Kennedy, for its continued growth. In political and influential circles of the country, including within Congress, the resistence to growing military expenditures is gaining strength.
However, according to Kennedy, the opposition to Reagan is still very weak. Reagan’s adversaries are divided and the presentations they make are not fully effective. Meanwhile, Reagan has the capabilities to effectively counter any propaganda. In order to neutralize criticism that the talks between the USA and the USSR are non-constructive, Reagan will grandiose, but subjectively propagandistic. At the same time, Soviet officials who speak about disarmament will be quoted out of context, silenced or groundlessly and whimsically discounted. Although arguments and statements by officials of the USSR do appear in the press, it is important to note the majority of Americans do not read serious newspapers or periodicals.
Kennedy believes that, given the current state of affairs, and in the interest of peace, it would be prudent and timely to undertake the following steps to counter the militaristic politics of Reagan and his campaign to psychologically burden the American people. In this regard, he offers the following proposals to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union Y.V. Andropov:
1. Kennedy asks Y.V. Andropov to consider inviting the senator to Moscow for a personal meeting in July of this year. The main purpose of the meeting, according to the senator, would be to arm Soviet officials with explanations regarding proble
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How does a person become so obsessed with hating "the left" that they are incapable of joining any discussion of virtually ANYTHING without trying to turn it into "the left is bad"? What a truly sad, pathetic life view it must be, to be so consumed, so dominated by one's hatred of a segment of society that that is all they can think about?
No, I didn't read it. It's totally irrelevant. It's from 1983, for Kriste's sake, and has nothing to do with Russia planning to enforce their anti-gay law during the Olympics, that much was obvious in the first couple of lines.
That Rap seems to never have anything valid to contribute to any thread, yet instead responds to almost all threads to say something INvalid, is incomprehensibly pitiful.
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I was answering your question about the Left's love affair w/ Soviet Russia.
You can't handle the truth.
Not remotely shocked.
"Hero" Ted Kennedy, the LION of the Senate, tried to conspire w/ the Soviets to undermine President Reagan, during the cold war.
Most would see that as an act of treason.
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Yeah, Brenda; what you said. Rap knows full well it wasn't a question there's never been a "Left's love affair w/ Soviet Russia", and nobody's ever considered Russia "utopia". He's just using it as an excuse.
Putin's self-aggrandizement would be sadly amusing if he didn't have so much power. But then he's not the first of their leaders of whom that is true, and no doubt won't be the last. I always found it amusing that Star Trek modeled the Klingons on Russians, a certain aptness there... ;o)
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