Zimmerman's Own Words
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UPDATED: Saturday, July 20, 2013 04:28
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Retarded!
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Originally posted by PIRATENEWS:
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
The libtard commies think this photo of one dead burgler is gonna get the blackies to kill da whities for da jooies. I doubt blacks r dat stoopid, since they dont like black burglers robbing blacks either and Zimmerman is a black mexican joo.
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Frem, your reasoning is spot on. I get every word my friend.
In America, justice is not blind. I have personally been a victim.
A man can be arrested just on someone's say so (charges were dropped, my lovely ex). The cops lied and I went peacefully. Spent a night in the holding pen.
In this case, prosecutors made some rather questionable and glaring mistakes. DeLiriondo was terrible in closing, what a maroon!
I dare say that they fumbled the ball almost on purpose, or took a dive.
SGG
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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
Well, what's pissin me off about it is that the whole matter has gone far far beyond anything Zimmerman did or didn't do cause of factors external to the incident.
Firstly, there's the propaganda campaign playing both sides, riling them up and setting them at each others throats by either pandering to latent fear and racism, or alternatively stoking the outrage of folks who have perhaps some right to be, but doing so for nefarious purpose.
This isn't just the usual ratings based controversy bullshit either, this is deliberate participation and manipulation.
Now, I hold the First Amendment a little dearer than most, as I am of the mind yes you can yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre, but should you do so you are then responsible for the CONSEQUENCES which result from that action - and while unlikely, I think the major media outlets should be held accountable for their part in trying to forment a situation which could spark civil unrest.
The rest of it is that there's been so much bullshit - as I pointed out initially, and was proven out on later, Zimm was a cop-wannabe and ass-kisser, and since cops love to have their fucking egos stroked, they tried to cover this shit up for him.
Most likely that was the officers who's asses he was kissin, and perhaps without the knowledge or participation of their superiors, but it is what it is, an attempted coverup, which makes THEM additionally culpable, but since of course they're treated as little tin gods immune to accountability that lets them off the hook and encourages both society and a jury to take it all out on Zimmerman, which isn't really fair.
Then there's the homeowners org letting a nutter like that self-appoint as security despite having an obvious agenda and blatant mental issues, which are SO obvious as to be undeniable, as many of you have noticed - which also begs the question of who the hell cleared this guy for CCW, when he is obviously a potential danger with one ?
But no, it ALL falls on Zimm, even shit that ain't his fault, cause everyone else slithers away from being held properly accountable.
On the OTHER side, is the USDOJ financing some of the protest marches out of their CRS fund during the period from Mar25-Apr12 2012, while one could look at it as providing a release vent and putting it under official sanction to avoid trouble starting, a more cynical eye would perhaps wonder if whipping up a frenzy and then stepping aside when things go to hell might be yet another manufactured "incident" to justify their own existence.
(Documentation now available via Judicial Watch)
Plus there is prosecutorial misconduct, not least of which is a little sleight of hand with discovery, and shifty tricks like the one I broke down regarding hollowpoint loads.
Much as it disgusts me, this compromises any concept of a Fair Trial, and begrudgingly with gritted teeth I admin that *SHOULD* mean a walkaway... but of course our so called Justice system is so rigged up this way that it's hard to feel sympathy for a guy like Zimm when folks are dropshot 24-7 for far less, and often blatantly innocent - where was this sympathy when those two PA Judges were ruining kids lives like a goddamn assembly line, you know ?
What SHOULD happen now, in a better world than ours...
Zimm cops an Alford Plea(1) by virtue of his belief that he was acting properly under the law, and the court takes this into account and convicts him of manslaughter with minimNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
What's next for GZ?
Not Guilty - He will get to keep his gun permit & return to his life
as a security person.
... Hmmm. Maybe he'll become Head of Security for some big company.
Maybe even a cop. :)
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Sickens me, Oonj...our legal system has totally gone to shit.
Somehow I don't think he'll be hired as a security guard by anyone ever again. Or at least, I guess I sincerely HOPE not!!
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Fla. mom gets 20 years for firing warning shots
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57433184/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for
-firing-warning-shots/
What color is Fla. mom?
Well, I would like to point out the problem with "stand your ground" and "make my day" laws that I think applies. The problem is that, with testimony being one of the most important parts of a trial, if the party getting shot at is alive to testify, it doesn't turn into an automatic acquittal. If there's only one story to judge by, however, it more often than not won't be an issue.
Example: I live in Colorado, which has something referred to as a "make my day" law. The law states that if someone has forced their way into your home, you can respond lethally. Okay, so for the purposes of this, say that, I don't know, one of my neighbors has shot a guy who broke into his house. If the guy dies and my neighbor tells the police and the court that he was an intruder, he doesn't face any kind of murder charge at all. But say the guy lives, and claims that he's a salesman or an activist and was let into the house freely. Well, then there's conflicting stories. There's charges for attempted murder or assault with a deadly weapon and a trial. (Don't forget that there was resistance against even arresting Zimmerman. Less coverage and public outrage and this case would never have gone to trial.)
This sort of thing encourages people against firing warning shots, because warning shots go into that gray area of self-defense laws, because there's more than one story. If you're claiming self-defense and your attacker claims they were just talking/arguing with you and you were the aggressor, it's trickier for the courts to decide you're telling the truth. But if you're the only witness and claim it was self-defense? Well, we can see the results.
I bet that if Trayvon Martin had lived, and been able to testify on his own behalf, and say that he had been attacked, this trial would have gone a lot longer, and probably would have different results.
What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.
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I bet that if Trayvon Martin had lived, and been able to testify on his own behalf, and say that he had been attacked, this trial would have gone a lot longer, and probably would have different results.
One difference would have been that Zimmerman wouldn't have beed charged with murder and manslaughter under that hypothetical. A more relevant to the case hypothetical is how many more punches to the face and head slams to the ground could Zimmerman have endured before he was dead? Looks like the jury came to terms with that question.
Another interesting hypothetical is what if the Hispanic man involved in this shooting had been named Jorge Zapata or Juan Rodriguez instead of George Zimmerman? Would the shooting incident ever have been more than a 2 minute story on the local evening news?
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:Quote:
I bet that if Trayvon Martin had lived, and been able to testify on his own behalf, and say that he had been attacked, this trial would have gone a lot longer, and probably would have different results.
One difference would have been that Zimmerman wouldn't have beed charged with murder and manslaughter under that hypothetical.
*sigh* Duh. But, as we can learn from reading about the woman in Florida who was charged with attempted murder for discharging her weapon and not killing or hitting anyone (which is, in part, what I was trying to draw attention to) apparently the minimum sentence for that is still twenty years.
Thank you for taking my point and turning it into something else. I just can't get enough of that. [insert sarcmark here]
What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.
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But Rose, it's JONG; the way he is now, did you expect something cogent?
Given we only have Zimmerman's WORD that he took more than one of anything (I seem to recall an expert saying the wounds to the back of his head didn't match his testimony), even his "hypothetical" is meaningless.
Give it up; we know how those joying in this verdict think; trying to communicate with them is just banging one's head against the wall.
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Originally posted by Niki2:
But Rose, it's JONG; the way he is now, did you expect something cogent?
Not really. There's a reason I post here about once a month instead of daily, now. I was, however, thinking that someone might have some response that actually addressed what I have pointed out about the way trials work and the laws encouraging murder and discouraging warnings or wounds.
What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.
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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Thank you for taking my point and turning it into something else. I just can't get enough of that. [insert sarcmark here]
Remembering the pics you've posted here, I'll bet you can't get enough donuts either. [not sarcasm]
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