Let's help support Enterprise if they are taking this from us

POSTED BY: space
UPDATED: Monday, October 4, 2004 14:48
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FIREFLYGAL

Friday, September 24, 2004 5:42 PM

How about turning the TV off?? That's the smart choice to me. There is nothing on TV worth my time. Qualifier, I don't have cable, just Network stations.

Better yet, watch Firefly episodes

BIKISDAD

Friday, September 24, 2004 6:12 PM

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Originally posted by fireflygal:
How about turning the TV off?? That's the smart choice to me. There is nothing on TV worth my time. Qualifier, I don't have cable, just Network stations.

Better yet, watch Firefly episodes

I'm with you completely. I also don't have cable any more. What's left on network tv is so bad (with a very small number of notable exceptions - Joan, Gilmore Girls, and possibly Lost - it has potential) that I've actually gone back to (Shudder, Gasp!) reading books. A good book is so much more enjoyable than a bad tv show. It's really no contest.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

FIREFLYGAL

Friday, September 24, 2004 9:28 PM

Books, books...wow, do they have pictures??

BIKISDAD

Friday, September 24, 2004 9:43 PM

Generally not. The one I just finished was Tom Clancy's "The Bear and the Dragon" - great reading, by the way, if you have a lot of time for it. However, I also recently read one with lots of pictures that I highly recommend. This should come as no surprise to anyone on this site: Joss Whedon's "Fray" is "a good read". If you miss "Buffy" and haven't read this yet, it's well worth the time and small expense.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

STANDING8

Friday, September 24, 2004 11:38 PM

i dont care if they take enterprise from tv. i dont have anything against star trek but i say the less sci fi shows there are on tv, then the better chance firefly has to come back.

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SHINYHAPPYKLIN

Saturday, September 25, 2004 5:19 PM

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Originally posted by standing8:
i dont care if they take enterprise from tv. i dont have anything against star trek but i say the less sci fi shows there are on tv, then the better chance firefly has to come back.

......uhhhhhh, the "logic" of that just makes my head hurt....off to get a drink...

And yes, I DID watch Enterprise the first two seasons; work cut into the 3rd one, but I found I really didn't care....and ask anyone, I am undeniably a sci-fi fan and Trekker, but Enterprise is just getting embarrassing.

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ANDYDUFRESNE

Saturday, September 25, 2004 8:47 PM

And yes, I DID watch Enterprise the first two seasons; work cut into the 3rd one, but I found I really didn't care....and ask anyone, I am undeniably a sci-fi fan and Trekker, but Enterprise is just getting embarrassing.

I have to agree that the first three seasons have lacksed a certain flair but let us not forget that the cancer of Star Trek has long been Braga and Berman. Trek lost it's strongest line up with Piller, Ron Moore, Rene Echeverria and guys like like. Manny Coto is in charge now and he wrote some genuinely good episodes so there is time yet for Enterprise to turn around.

And to the poster that said Enterprise was poor due to it's "no conflict" and "boring" (I paraphrase) I would say that this is not a problem. It is simply Roddenberry's view of the future and the writers need to take that premise and create drama. Nicholas Meyer did it, and the writers I mentioned previously did too. Good writers can save Trek, I prefer to be positive and hope that they do just that.

DANFAN

Saturday, September 25, 2004 11:52 PM

I thought that the first few episodes of the first season were really intriguing. But then, the Enterprise was really not the best ship on the block and the crew on it weren't winning many fights by themselves. There was a sense of the darkness that one of the other posters in this thread spoke of... a sense that in any given episode, these guys just might get their heads handed to them by the next alien they met. It kept things a little edgy.

Then it started to mellow out. I was willing to buy into that... I thought maybe they were trying show the crew starting to learn from mistakes, get their spacelegs so to speak.

But then the stories became so hit-or-miss. The story arc attempt last season was noble. But it wasn't executed with the panache that Joss does a story arc. I thought that the story arc had about enough horsepower in it to carry half a season. A full season of it really had some dead spots in it.

All that said, I sorta like Enterprise, in the sense that it's not "Bachelor" or yet another "made for Sci-Fi channel" movie. If it gets cancelled, I won't cry. My biggest concern with its possible cancellation is that it leaves yet another gap in the evening schedule for a new reality show. If that happens, I wouldn't watch the replacement, but I fear for the long term deterioration that such fare is causing in the brains of the people who are fans of "reality" shows. I think its similar to alcoholism or tobacco use. Can't we run public service commercials warning of the danger of "reality show exposure"?

My TV watching is really whittled down now. There's about 3 shows I find worth watching. And 2 more new ones that I'm giving a chance to catch me.

GHOULMAN

Monday, October 4, 2004 2:37 PM

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Originally posted by captaincdc:
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Hey look, someone from UPN Marketing.

Ever notice there aren't any Enterprise fans? I've checked the TrekBBS and it's nothing but Marketing people paid to post, giving an online "fan presence".

Hint: There isn't one.

Hey Ghoulman, you and I have not argued about Enterprise or anything else in a while. I miss it, where you been hiding out.

Oh yeah, the reason for this post. I'm a fan of Enterprise, but I'm a fan of Trek more than I'm a fan of Enterprise.

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

I thought you hated my guts because you took offence when I implied you were a "smelly fanboy"? Here you are repying to me, how nice.

Well, I don't want to rant in your thread about my opinions, which is why I bumped my old "Boycott" thread, I don't want to cut into others fun even if I think they are blind or just vapid Fanboys (oh, that term again!). Let me say I'm an old "trekkie" who really only finds the original show to be truley special while all those shows that came after just aren't as well done. Sure, there is some above the board "stuff" in TNG, and DS9, but not enough to be truly special or long lasting.

GHOULMAN

Monday, October 4, 2004 2:48 PM

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Originally posted by shinyhappyklin:
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Originally posted by standing8:
i dont care if they take enterprise from tv. i dont have anything against star trek but i say the less sci fi shows there are on tv, then the better chance firefly has to come back.

......uhhhhhh, the "logic" of that just makes my head hurt....off to get a drink...

And yes, I DID watch Enterprise the first two seasons; work cut into the 3rd one, but I found I really didn't care....and ask anyone, I am undeniably a sci-fi fan and Trekker, but Enterprise is just getting embarrassing.

And I agree - but I feel the need to point out that "franchaise" programming is just what got Firefly cancelled.

That is - more Sci-Fi doesn't beget more Sci-Fi, but less!!!

With Enteprise being propped up by the money and francaise power of a multi-mega-corporate monster the wider market is viewed by Network CEOs as being "glutted". That is, why compete with Star Trek? Why put out more material that Trek will just kill in ratings, sales, etc?

Even if you thought your Sci-Fi show was better the Trek franchaise is propped up by that multi-mega-corporate monster I mentioned... and that monster will eat you alive if only to keep you out of thier market. This is business you know, no one at Paramount or FOX gives a tiny tribbles arse about Sci-Fi and Fantasy in general. If they happen to kill any popular interest in Sci-Fi by making Enteprise so egregious, sexist, etc. they will simply make more Reality shows.

To all Fanboys (sorry if that's offensive, but it applies. Ask me about it!

) - put down the plastic doll and read a book about the history of Star Trek. An old one, not the smarmy ones I 've been hearing about.

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