Shepard Book's Past
POSTED BY: ShanYu
UPDATED: Tuesday, October 5, 2004 03:24
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I really like your theory its the exact type of thing joss would do, very few people would think this far out of the box but joss probably would, its a good tehory... a hell of a lot better than mine lol, the only thing is that book is not chinese and Shan Yu was said to be a chinese philosipher...
"You can live with a man for fourty years , share his meals, talk on every subject, then tie him up, and hold him over the volanoes edge. And on that day, you will finally meet the man"
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Quote:Mal lists a number of potential buyers by name in Serenity, only to dismiss them in favor of Patience. We don't see any of them.
Originally posted by Theron:
To my knowledge he only named one character that never actually made a physical appearance in the show and that is who Book is.
Similarly, several of Saffron's victims were named in Trash, but (since they were all dead) we didn't get to see them either.
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Kotoba yori tashika na koto michizure ni shite.
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Hello again everyone, thanks for the comments. For a while I have needed someone(s) to help me poke holes in the idea. So here goes with the responses to thing.
Shanyu: Thanks I appreciate the thinking outside the box comment. :) All of the other ideas seem to pat for me, to been there and done that formulaic for this show. As for Shanyu in the show, I forgot I had the eps on my computer and watched that scene again, no where in there do they say he was a chinese philosopher. They say he was a psychotic dictator but not a chinese man. If they did somewhere else in the eps could you point it out for me? I would very much appreaite it as that would pretty much shoot my theory in the foot and let me move on. :)
Cybersnark, I also looked for that scene with Book checking out the brainscan of River. It is very brief, but it looks to me a lot more like he is just confused by it. I will watch it again and see if I can get a better look at his face.
Michizure, my apologies. I was tired and should have said "the only person who didn't show up in the show but that we got some solid info on." The people the captian mentions in Serenity only gives us names and a very small amount of info. Dead (Reavers), won't touch it, can't afford it, and brain-blown. By the way, anyone have any clue what brain-blown is? Been wondering that for a while.
Keep them coming guys, this helps me out quite a bit.
Later. :)
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Book....
There's a chance here that book is the 'Mcgufin' in Firefly a convenient way to divert the attention as was stated by Theron.
Fact is Joss could quite easily have left all this open just so as to have the ammo to take Book wherever he wants in the future.
From what's been set up the possibilities are endless, from spy to aliiance officer to medic to all round adventurer... Who knows?
That said I enjoy many of the theories here and all have some credibility based on the snippets of Books past that we have been privy too. Thing is I don't think there is enough to say either way.
Personally I like the religious slant and the parrallels that can be drawn with fallen biblical characters .
I like the idea that Book is a sort of fallen angel - perhaps a triator which saw him give up his fellow compatriots to the alliance during the war, and then was witness to the slaughter of these men and possibly women and children.
Something akin to Judas in Dante's inferno with his place right next to the Beast (the Devil)... and he is now trying to atone for his sins as a triator....
His weeping at the alliance officers' death, alerting him to the fact that he has a very difficult, perhpas even impossible task ahead of him.
Who knows - but it all makes for fascinating discussion and I can't wait for Serenity to see what happens with Ron Glass' character.
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Theron, I think that is a great theory you have about Book.
By the way, I feel that you are wrong, but that is only a feeling. 
I did get the impression that this Shan Yu was someone far in the past, but that might have been my own assumptions.
My theory? I believe that Book is actually another person whom we have heard named but never seen: Richard Wilkins, the Alliance General who won the Battle of Serenity Valley.
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Hahahahaha, everyone likes the idea but no one agrees with it but me and a couple of my friends. :) That is one of the reasons I posted it, I would like some help debunking it or making it better.
A good many times when I was trying to figure out Book I threw my hands up in the air in disgust, there truly is very little there to go on. And you may be right, Joss may have left it open so he could run with it in any direction he felt like when the time came. And alliance/independent anything is still a good back story. Even if I don't think it is right.
On the Shaun Yu in the past, I got that impression as well, but not so far back as to be Earth that Was. I think he was someone who came to power before the War of Unification. My reasoning for that is pretty simple, it would be a darn cool back story for a character. :)
Ok, that and during Jaynestown, Simon, mentions the ancient Egyptians, and every one just stares at him until he explains. But a good many people seem to know who Shaun Yu is without any explanation.
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Quote:I'm guessing it's the 'versal equivalent to being a vegetable.
Originally posted by Theron:
By the way, anyone have any clue what brain-blown is? Been wondering that for a while.
As in, the guy Mal's talking about O.D.ed on something, or maybe he took some greivous head/central nervous system injury. He's currently "alive," but either comatose or shuffling around an asylum doing his best Drusilla impression.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Theron:
Hahahahaha, everyone likes the idea but no one agrees with it but me and a couple of my friends. :) That is one of the reasons I posted it, I would like some help debunking it or making it better.
A good many times when I was trying to figure out Book I threw my hands up in the air in disgust, there truly is very little there to go on. And you may be right, Joss may have left it open so he could run with it in any direction he felt like when the time came. And alliance/independent anything is still a good back story. Even if I don't think it is right.
On the Shaun Yu in the past, I got that impression as well, but not so far back as to be Earth that Was. I think he was someone who came to power before the War of Unification. My reasoning for that is pretty simple, it would be a darn cool back story for a character. :)
Ok, that and during Jaynestown, Simon, mentions the ancient Egyptians, and every one just stares at him until he explains. But a good many people seem to know who Shaun Yu is without any explanation.
Actually, the only members of the crew who seem to know about Shan Yu are Book, Simon, and (possibly) River.
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Originally posted by Mantichorus:
Actually, the only members of the crew who seem to know about Shan Yu are Book, Simon, and (possibly) River.
Mal knows enough about him to know he wrote books. "you starting a book club."
Thank You Kindly.
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