Ann Rice Has Gone Crazy!!!!!!!!!
POSTED BY: Spookyjesus
UPDATED: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 09:34
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Originally posted by Spookyjesus:
I'm justifiably proud of being read by intellectual giants and waitresses in trailer parks,in fact, I love it, but who in the world are you?
Now, what other person does this statement remind me of? *cough*georgelucas*cough*
And like to the guy who messed up Star Wars I would like to tell this "unfailable" author:
"I am a guy who spent his money on your stuff, helped make you rich and famous and got a kick in the butt as a "Thank you" "
Well, only my two cents.
Keep flying,
Gavida
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Originally posted by Fireflew:Quote:
Originally posted by StarPilotGrainger:
However, she comes off as really pretentious and arrogant.
I'll quote one phrase which is indicative of this:
"Every word is in perfect place."
Plus. If I recall correctly, she describes writing her novels as, "a virtuoso act... not an ensemble piece."
I agree.
When I read Anne's comments it sounded like Lestat talking. Could we consider her alter ego made the response? Oh vanity! thy name is Anne Rice.
To me it sounds like Lestat has finally possessed her entirely. ...kookoo.
A virtuoso act? Take a bow Anne. :P
oh boy
Keeper of Jayne's goggles. 8)
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Originally posted by Gavida:
Now, what other person does this statement remind me of? *cough*georgelucas*cough*
And like to the guy who messed up Star Wars I would like to tell this "unfailable" author:
"I am a guy who spent his money on your stuff, helped make you rich and famous and got a kick in the butt as a "Thank you" "
Well, only my two cents.
Keep flying,
Gavida
This attitude that Mr Lucas, or for that matter Ms Rice, owe their fans amuses me. You paid money to read/see their product. No one forced you, you did it of your own free will. You got to read/see their product, and hopefully enjoyed it. Now you seem to think that ten dollars (or whatever you paid) entitles you to a say in their lives. In your line of work would you appreciate people thinking they had a right to tell you what to do? After all their money is contributing towards your wages.
Plus, Ms Rice did not tell her fans to get lost. She told a few rude people who were spreading lies, and didn't even have the courage to use their own names, to get lost.
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Originally posted by Wren:
I am confused as to why she is arrogant for saying she no longer requires an editor. Do the people who made that comment still require their mummy to wipe their bottoms? I'm guessing the answer is no, because they learnt to do it on their own. Why shouldn't an author have learnt to manage on their own?
Have you ever written professionally? Nobody's perfect. Are you going to tell the 99.9% of authors out there who do use editors that they're just being big babies?
Editors aren't perfect either, but they're there to help guide you. Be a sounding board, at least. She sure could have used a copy editor for that rant too. :-P
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I have read and enjoyed many of Anne Rice's books. The Vampire Chronicles being one. I have stood on line twice to have her autograph her works. She was extremely cordial and polite, but I enjoy her works. I believe her venting was a human response. What Firefly fan has not wanted to thrash Fox up and down because they didn't "get" Firefly. Can we deny Ms. Rice the same privilege of thrashing those who don't "get" her writing? On another note, I do believe she has a bit of eccenticity about her. Which is certainly no crime. By the way, her phone number is no secret and she leaves updates for her fans. As for her personal phone number, I hope that remains personal.
As for editing, I have written news articles professionally and I have got to say, it is ANNOYING AS HELL to have an editor change a word to a similar word. Why did they change it in the first place??? That was a rhetorical question, by the way. I understand completely what she is saying (no I'm not so egoistic that I don't need an editor) but she has lived her writing and her characters and has a fine writing ability and KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT SHE WANTS TO SAY AND HOW TO SAY IT so in her defense (as well as many other capable writers) I believe an editor can do more harm than good. But they are necessary for probably 99% of the writers out there (myself included of course, but I don't have to like it).
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Originally posted by KernelM:
Have you ever written professionally? Nobody's perfect. Are you going to tell the 99.9% of authors out there who do use editors that they're just being big babies?
Editors aren't perfect either, but they're there to help guide you. Be a sounding board, at least. She sure could have used a copy editor for that rant too. :-P
I would never dream of telling authors who use editors that they are babies. I respect their right to write their book in anyway they see fit. That includes Anne Rice. I am still waiting for someone to explain to me why the fact that she does not want to use an editor makes her such a bad person. You state 'nobody's perfect', in which case she might as well go it alone. At least any mistakes will be hers.
Can you tell me that 99% of authors out there want to use editors? You have to be well known and successful to call the shots on your work. If an author has reached that stage and wants to take advantage of the situation why does that make them arrogant?
A book is a little different to a rant. We are all guilty of sloppy grammer, punctuation and spelling in our everyday writings, particularly when they are emotionally driven. However, we make more effort in our work.
Yes, I have written professionally. Yes, my work was edited. I realised my work required editing, Ms Rice feels hers doesn't. I don't consider that the fact my work required editing makes me a better person than her. I am interested to know why others reacted negatively to her decision.
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I've just heard that people who've taken Ann up on her offer of a refund have had there books returned marked "return to sender" on the envelope.
So not only is she up her own ass - she's dishonest.
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Quote:lol! Oh that Anne, she's a pistol!
Originally posted by Anne Rice:
And you have strained my Dickensean principles to the max.
Good for her.
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When I read the post, I had to re read it several times to keep track with what was being said... It looks like I have taken a different veiw of the rant.
IF it was in fact Ann doing the writting....
It looks like more of a blurb on a book jacket to get you to read the book. Hints of who did what and why which is in the book anyway.. and a touch of, " I gotta explain the characters a bit so people will like them " tossed in.
The " I don't need an editor bit" now that is an intersting one. WHY is an editor so important to modify , change an authors work? Have we ever seen an author's original work and the edited version printed side by side and let the people decide which is better?
So who decided that an editor does a better job?
edit for spelling, context etc, but no real point to change words or even title. Some may like an editor to do so and that is fine too.
Still the whole rant seemed to be.. aren't the characters great , go buy a copy.
I always wondered why, if she thinks every word she writes is so great, why she dis-owned ( except for the money ) the Beauty series she wrote that got her started and Exit from Eden. After she made enough money to write full time and have publishers print her stuff.. of a sudden only Vampires count?
I am not a Vampire fan and every time I have tried to read her Vampire books, I have flashbacks of Darkshadows and give up. Yep there is a great number of people that love those Vampire books, and more power to em, and yep, even bought some as Christmas presents.
In short... ignore the rant, buy em if ya like em, don't if ya don't, and if you are afraid you will waste a buck when you buy a book,,, get a library card. The library WANTS the books back and gee, no charge.
The Journey is the worthier part.
www.southdownabbey.com
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Originally posted by KernelM:Quote:
Originally posted by Wren:
I am confused as to why she is arrogant for saying she no longer requires an editor. Do the people who made that comment still require their mummy to wipe their bottoms? I'm guessing the answer is no, because they learnt to do it on their own. Why shouldn't an author have learnt to manage on their own?
Have you ever written professionally? Nobody's perfect. Are you going to tell the 99.9% of authors out there who do use editors that they're just being big babies?
Editors aren't perfect either, but they're there to help guide you. Be a sounding board, at least. She sure could have used a copy editor for that rant too. :-P
Gotta agree with this. Everyone does need an editor, and the comment about wiping bottoms is not relevant. To suggest she doesnt need one is to suggest that she is inhuman and beyond mistakes and infallible, and absolutely perfect, and sorry kids, she isnt. I like her books, didnt like others, but wont slate her personally, I just think it is very arrogant and a bit cuckoo of her to go this far. Also saying you learn t do it by yourself shows ignorance of publishing, writing and the industry. News flash, even Stephen King, perhaps the greatest living author alive still has proof readers and editors!!! Also agree with earlier comments about not having to like the person to enjoy their work. Authors dont have to defend themselves, and shouldnt, and for her to do so at this stage suggests something is wrong. She cant be insecure after all her success, so why bother? People who personally slag her off are obviously a bit weird themselves, so not siding with them. I just find the whole situation most odd.
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