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Ever dissing the US Marine Corpse

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Saturday, May 25, 2013 10:50 AM





According to Marine Corps regulation MCO P1020.34F of the Marine Corps Uniform Regulations chapter 3, a male Marine is not allowed to carry an umbrella while in uniform. There is no provision in the Marine Corps uniform regulation guidelines that allows a male Marine to carry an umbrella

The Marine Corps Manual, the guidebook that defines protocol for officers and enlisted Marines, in section 2806 paragraph 2, specifically states “The Marine Corps Uniform Regulations, published by the Commandant of the Marine Corps, shall be binding on all Marines. No officer or official shall issue instructions which conflict with, alter, or amend any provision without the approval of the Commandant of the Marine Corps.”

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Saturday, May 25, 2013 12:43 PM

Must have been a Code Red. Does Demi's uniform still fit?

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Saturday, May 25, 2013 1:25 PM

Was It Against Uniform Protocol for the Marine to Hold Obama’s Umbrella?

As TheBlaze blog pointed out yesterday — and many other stories covering President Barack Obama’s press conference outside the White House showed — the Commander in Chief called in Marines to hold umbrellas over him and the Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan as it began to rain during an outdoor press conference.

But now the Internet is starting to buzz with an interesting angle: Was it actually out of Marine uniform protocol for the Marines to hold the weather-shielding items?

“…[W]hy don’t we get a couple Marines — they’re going to look good next to us — just ’cause I’ve got a change of suit but I don’t know about, uh, our prime minister,” Obama said, requesting the umbrellas while he answered questions regarding the IRS scandal.

Some are pointing to the Chapter 3 of the MCO P1020.34F of the Marine Corps Uniform Regulations, which states:

Female Marines may carry an all-black, plain standard or collapsible umbrella at their option during inclement weather with the service and dress uniforms. It will be carried in the left hand so that the hand salute can be properly rendered. Umbrellas may not be used/carried in formation nor will they be carried with the utility uniform.

As can be noted here, female Marines are permitted to carry umbrellas while in service or dress uniforms. The Marines pictured holding umbrellas are in dress uniforms, but they are males and the Marine holding one above Obama is using his right hand.

That seems pretty clear. But is there a caveat? Meaning: Would the president’s request supersede military uniform protocol rules?

The manual states that a commander “may interpret the provisions of this Manual to address specific concerns whenever necessary.” A commander in the manual is defined as Marine officers titled as “Commanding General, Commanding Officer, Director, Officer in Charge or Inspector-Instructor.”

“Exceptions to this Manual are only granted in writing by the Commandant of the Marine Corps (Marine Corps Uniform Board),” it states.

TheBlaze contacted the the Marines’ and was also referred to Title 10 responsibilities of the United States Code, specifically this portion of the section (emphasis added):

The Marine Corps, within the Department of the Navy, shall be so organized as to include not less than three combat divisions and three air wings, and such other land combat, aviation, and other services as may be organic therein. The Marine Corps shall be organized, trained, and equipped to provide fleet marine forces of combined arms, together with supporting air components, for service with the fleet in the seizure or defense of advanced naval bases and for the conduct of such land operations as may be essential to the prosecution of a naval campaign. In addition, the Marine Corps shall provide detachments and organizations for service on armed vessels of the Navy, shall provide security detachments for the protection of naval property at naval stations and bases, and shall perform such other duties as the President may direct. However, these additional duties may not detract from or interfere with the operations for which the Marine Corps is primarily organized.

Given that the president is defined as the Commander in Chief “of the Army and Navy of the United States…” by the Constitution and that fact that the Marines’ dress code protocol says “the Commandant or higher authority” can authorize “articles that are not authorized for wear as a part of a regulation uniform,” is the president considered a commander with this ability?

The spokesperson for the Marines said “certainly.”





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Saturday, May 25, 2013 1:26 PM

The lengths the Right will go to create a "scandal" is just amazing...





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Saturday, May 25, 2013 1:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Penguin:
The lengths the Right will go to create a "scandal" is just amazing...



Given Obama's history for 'dissing' the military, it's not a stretch in the least.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:00 PM

Federal Courthouse

District of Columbia


Lt. Caffey : "President Obama, did you order the Code Umbrella?"

Pres. Obama : "Why am I here? I have work to do. I'm leaving."

Lt. Caffey : "Sit down and answer the question. And I want the truth!"

Pres. Obama : "You can't handle the truth."

Lt. Caffey : "What truth is that?"

Pres. Obama : "You people, you sit on your Cheetos-stained couches with your smug smiles, safe with the security that I provide. You want me under that umbrella. You need me under that umbrella.

Lt. Caffey : "Did you order the Code Umbrella?"

Pres. Obama : "You're goddamn right I did!"

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Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:02 PM


You're really fixated on that scene, aren't ya Jongs?

LOL.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:13 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

You're really fixated on that scene, aren't ya Jongs?

LOL.



You're goddamn right I am! Nothing else comes close.

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Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:33 PM

Didja see the one yesterday on CNN.com? Obama was getting on the helicopter, Marine One. Instead of saluting the Marine doorman (probably not his true title, but an accurate description of his function), Obama SHOOK HANDS WITH HIM.
I figgered that would really blow the righties' minds.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/24/to-salute-or-not-obama
s-handshake-sparks-debate/?hpt=po_c2

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Saturday, May 25, 2013 2:45 PM

Oh, the outrage!





As for the whole saluting thing, presidents really didn't salute servicemembers before Reagan started the practice. Even Dwight Eisenhower didn't do it once he became president. We've been over this before, of course, but righties have tiny little memories, it seems.

Heck, most righties can't even remember how badly Reagan dissed the Corps by allowing more than 250 Marines to get blown up, and then "surrendering" by pulling all U.S. forces out of Lebanon.


Of course that idiotic quitter Sarah Palin couldn't keep her moronic yap shut:









"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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