Firefly - Any Hope for Season 2?

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ZEEK

Monday, June 13, 2011 4:44 PM

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Short answer, no.

Long answer: It doesn't matter how popular a certain director is. it doesn't matter at all. All that matters is if the project will get back what was put into it, plus (at least) an additional 10% (read: profit). By the way, that has to be pretty much guaranteed on the risk assessment.

Firefly didn't get enough profit and Serenity (the movie) didn't either. So, even though people here would like to think that there is hope, there really isn't unless Fox decides to sell the rights. And they aren't exactly known for there kindness. Especially, with them sueing fans and sending cease and desist letters to fan groups.

Sorry.

This is pretty much what I've resigned myself to. In fact I'm starting to wonder if we won't get some crummy reboot without Joss involved at all. See the talk of a new Buffy movie.

For some reason with Buffy it doesn't bother me nearly as much because for me Buffy was about the idea. With Firefly it's about the characters. You can't have a new captain and just roll with it. It becomes a totally different show almost.

So, we're almost in a "be careful what you wish for" situation.

BROWNCOAT1

Monday, June 13, 2011 5:26 PM

As much as I'd like to think Firefly might continue, it just seems like a far too unlikely dream at this point. The cast has moved on, Joss hasn't shown much inclination to do a lot with the 'verse since Serenity, and the comics are very few and all too far in between.

At this point I'd settle for another ship and crew in the little 'verse Joss created, but if the Avengers is successful I see that being more of an obstacle for any continuation of any kind of story. Success on the level of Avengers will have studios looking to link Joss up with other projects and that won't leave much time for Joss to take us back out to the black.

Not trying to be a downer, just sayin' is all.

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ECGORDON

Monday, June 13, 2011 5:33 PM

I agree with the more realistic attitudes on this subject, but I'm still enough of a dreamer to hope we might get something more to the story, even if it is a reboot with a new crew, or maybe focus on some peripheral characters like Badger, Saffron, Monty, etc.

However, as much as I hope for more, I realize that almost nothing could live up to my expectations. Joss and crew set the bar way too high.

STORYMARK

Monday, June 13, 2011 5:52 PM

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Originally posted by Noocyte:
unless it sucks, which --really-- ain't gonna happen.

How good it is has little to do with it. How much money it makes is the important factor (unfortunately).

But to get to the original question, not really. Not a new series at least.

A Serenity sequel is at least a slim possibility, but "slim" is the operative word there.

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ZEEK

Monday, June 13, 2011 6:21 PM

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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Success on the level of Avengers will have studios looking to link Joss up with other projects and that won't leave much time for Joss to take us back out to the black.

Yeah that's why I think if we do get a series it won't be lead by Joss. At best he might get to put together a team to tackle it. At worst they take the name and plaster "created by Joss Whedon" everywhere and get a network yes man to run it into the ground for a few seasons.

RIONAEIRE

Monday, June 13, 2011 10:42 PM

I doubt it. But I think there might be more comics. Also a spin off with all new charactors seems likely at some point in the future since the verse is so popular among its devoted fans and everyone in the US has at least one friend with their own set of Firefly DVDs. I'd be okay with a new crew myself. I have this slightly irrational belief that the Firefly we know and love is the closest thing to perfect that I've ever seen in a TV show and thus no matter what happens it would possibly mar that exquisiteness. Thus the idea of a new ship and crew would be interesting to me because it can't ruin anything and would be fun. Plus maybe some of our BDHs could do cameos now and again. Just knowing they're out there would be fun.

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SHINYGOODGUY

Saturday, May 18, 2013 3:11 AM

Hey EC, get out of my head!

That's the idea I had about continuing the FF 'verse. A Web or DVD series including the different characters we've come to know such as Badger, Niska, Saffron and Monty (preferably with soupcathcer). A reboot with the BDH's telling War stories of their heroics comes to mind. I even think that, in some way, Joss could re-introduce the captain of the salvage ship in OoG would be back and Mal could exact his revenge (you know, he did shoot him a bit).

So to recap: I'm a realist, but also a hopeful romantic and I always think that somehow, someway our crew will be back "flying" again. What gives me hope is the recognition Joss is getting now with the success of the Avengers and, I would suspect, from TV's Shield.

Ok, I'm bracing myself for the responses.................have at it.

SGG

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
I agree with the more realistic attitudes on this subject, but I'm still enough of a dreamer to hope we might get something more to the story, even if it is a reboot with a new crew, or maybe focus on some peripheral characters like Badger, Saffron, Monty, etc.

However, as much as I hope for more, I realize that almost nothing could live up to my expectations. Joss and crew set the bar way too high.

SHINYGOODGUY

Saturday, May 18, 2013 3:38 AM

I actually love the idea. I'm a big time "extras" guy. What I mean is when a show or movie uses/revisits characters or a trademark, such as in the Star Wars reboot in Episode VII.

By the way, has it been confirmed about Ford reprising his role as Han Solo.

SGG

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Originally posted by jkrfan7:
Hey, it's been 30 years since 'Return of the Jedi' and now Hamill, Ford and Fisher are returning to play those roles. I'd say anything is possible.

Damn it, I don't need a back spaceship driver!

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:07 PM

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Originally posted by InvaderChat:
Can someone please explain to me how they think the success of 'The Avengers' will lead to any possibility of a Firefly continuation?

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Joss was already pretty well known in TV land for Buffy and Angel which were mighty successes.

He wasn't just " well-known", he was successful, for those two shows; profitable, bringing in money.
Fox wanted his magic. They got him by agreeing to let him work on a show HE wanted to do.
Now he's successful again with Avengers. He's got the magic back. Some studio will want it. After he runs out his contract options, unless Avengers II bombs, SOMEBODY will want his NEW MAGIC to be THEIR NEW MAGIC.
If they have to let him work on what he wants to work on to get him, they will, that'll be part of the deal.

And at that point, IF what he wants to do is Firefly, They'll work it out, buy the rights, whatever.

That's what we're all hoping for. He keeps saying he wants to do it. The actors keep saying they would still do it. When the time comes, Joss will either lift us up or let ALL our hopes down.

Then it will be up to the actors. Either they're BSing us or not. Either they'll be available or not. If not, then look for FF, the Next Gen.

That's how I see it. Either Joss is Gene Roddenberry, reborn, who truly believes in what he's said, or not. He either has more to say about the Firefly 'Verse, or not. At some point, he'll get another chance. We hope he'll step up , for real.

ZZETTA13

Monday, May 20, 2013 4:10 AM

I would love to see more Firefly, I think every fan on this site would. With the old cast being so busy I’d be happy to get a sequel or prequel to Serenity, but I what would make me happier would be to get a mini-series on tv (that’s if we can’t get season 2). If some company would want to test the waters for the popularity of a second season, a well advertised mini-series would prove to them the multitude of devoted fans the show still has. I still think it’s the best television show I’ve ever seen. Z

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