Defiance- does this look good or what?
POSTED BY: RiverTam1
UPDATED: Thursday, October 9, 2025 20:23
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Just another 2 cents. I'm not buying Graham Greene as the angry, grief stricken father, ready to start a blood feud with the Tarr's, ala Hatfield and McCoy's.
The guy just doesn't seem right for that part. He's too NICE! I wanna see him dishing out quite, reserved wisdom, like some tribal sage, not as some crazed, blood thirsty father w/ a grudge. It just doesn't sell for me.
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If they picked such a nice guy for this particular role what possible reason could they have for that???
Well, for one there's the symbology of him being Native American and here's these people coming in and.... well, history repeats itself...
I think he also represents the United States and to a lesser extent humanity. We already know that there is a plot against his life, so they had to pick someone who is likable because as humans we should all be pulling for him to come out on top... I didn't really care for him in this role either, but there isn't exactly a large pool of Natives to work with...
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Wish - while I'm intrigued with your post, do writers really put that much thought into their characters?
I mean, it makes sense, what you're saying about an Indian and the symbolism, of aliens coming in and tossing his world into an unrecognizable heap.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Wish - while I'm intrigued with your post, do writers really put that much thought into their characters?
Not half as much as I'd want, but I for sure have a feeling that there will be many symbols in this one. They could've picked a myriad of people for that role sure 'nuff, but they went Native, and in St Louis? I might not have looked twice if it were say...The Dakotas, but it sure seemed like a man out of place.
Also, I'm not sure a lot of writers put the thought in there for them to be symbols half as much as they just rip off a storyline from reality and slightly alter it because it's cheap and easy, but I can't blame them too much...
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looks like I'm done with Defiance...disapointed on many levels...last night's episode seemed like I was watching a rerun of 5 other movies..old movies.... "run..run for the stronghold Thunderheart....must smoke the peace pipe in order to open your mind"
never mind the gratuitous sex scene that was just gross.... think I'll just go watch Mr. Maggoo
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I do like Irisa as a character, especially because she reminds me of River, in a sense. From next week's promo it looks like she'll be having some dreams foretelling something or some-such. It was very brief.
She should've threatened to smear soup on someone and then the analogy would be complete
Next week maybe she should play with some marbles and whisper "Jossss" heh.
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Originally posted by OLDGUY:
never mind the gratuitous sex scene that was just gross.... think I'll just go watch Mr. Maggoo
Glad you brought that up...I actually had hopes I could watch some episodes of this show with mah kid, but even I was blushing (and a little wretching)at that and I don't blush... I can't watch just about ANYTHING as a family anymore without being bored stiff or maternally horrified...
But then, I guess that's an old fashioned notion anymore, spending time as a family
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Irisa is still my favorite character, but the stories have been very weak. I don't care at all about the romance between the Castithan boy and the human girl, Graham Greene has been a big disappointment, and sad to say but Julie Benz has been relatively useless too.
There is so much they could be doing to get us to not only understand the various alien species, but also to care about them or the humans. So far that has not happened. They plopped us down in the middle of "Alien Melting Pot" post-apocalyptic America, with no knowledge of how it all happened. Were they expecting all of us to be playing the game and learning the information from other sources?
I WANT THEM TO TELL ME ABOUT IT IN THE SHOW ITSELF!!!!
Sorry for shouting.
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I'm not giving up on the show just yet, but there's a boat load of history, recent history of the planet, the invasion, etc... that's being glossed over, or saved, for later. Problem is, I feel too many viewers will start tuning out before the important back story stuff comes to the surface. And it sure as hell better, because the stuff they're laying out so far has been weak. Very weak.
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I'm going to hang in there to. Not much else to watch. That says a lot for the show. Hoping it will get better as everyone settles into their task.
http://www.imdb.com/list/1pzry-tpdaI/
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