Defiance- does this look good or what?
POSTED BY: RiverTam1
UPDATED: Thursday, October 9, 2025 20:23
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I agree 100%, even about the little red-haired girl.
SGG
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Originally posted by OLDGUY:
I downloaded epi 2 Tuesday night ( I hate commercials) from Itunes... honestly, I can't half remember what the episode was even about..it was that forgettable.... I rode out the first season of Star Trek TNG while the actors shook off the cardboard and settled into their roles, I'll give Defiance time as well, cause I like what it could be...but they might want to call Joss up and see if he has any phone numbers for some of his old writers
and what the heck?...did the little red haired girl get a makeup change or is it a different actress?... she was much cuter in the pilot
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This whole show is a metaphor Mr. Auraptor for our experience here on boring old Earth.
I do like Irisa as a character, especially because she reminds me of River, in a sense. From next week's promo it looks like she'll be having some dreams foretelling something or some-such. It was very brief. But I'm giving it a chance despite some lame plot contrivances. I still say that this is Universal's answer to the Fox television rights of Firefly, we're in the presence of an end around folks - soak it in, such as it is.
Someone earlier posted that maybe they should hire some of the writers from FF to get more of the show's flavor. I second that motion. Hey is Jane Espenson or Tim Minear available?
SGG
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Irisa continues to intrigue me. I don't know if it's her personal story, or that we don't know much of her species yet. My impression is that she's feisty, clever and independent ,but has a streak of the latter that gets her into trouble. She must be good at fighting, or sticking close to Nolan. My guess is they keep each other out of trouble a bit.
Also, I'm liking the alien doctor, when ever she's ( it ?) is on screen.
As for the 2nd ep... meh. The whole 'cleansing' ritual nonsense really does seem ridiculous. Their planet blows up, and yet they cling to " the old ways ", such as public torture for the high crime of cowardice, and a social cast system, in a world where there's no need for it. Oh yeah... there's a foundation for an advanced society. ( sarcasm )
And jumping to the part of 'Old St. Louis'... where there's a fairly intact nuclear power plant, just sitting there, unused, unprotected, doesn't seem to concern anyone ?
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Jane keeps showing up in shows I like, and then they get cancelled. Last I saw her name, was the revival of Torchwood - Miracle Day. And I can't think of Tim w/ out also thinking of Wonderfalls, too. Don't know how long that show could have endured, had it survived, but I fully enjoyed the premise and the first season.
But I digress.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I still say that this is Universal's answer to the Fox television rights of Firefly, we're in the presence of an end around folks - soak it in, such as it is.
It's nice that you are willing to give Universal such credit since they did take a chance on our BDHs, but you do realize that the corporate structure of the company has gone through several changes since. Defiance was created by Rockne S. O'Bannon and Kevin Taylor, not by some Universal execs. Any similarity to Firefly is sheer serendipity and coincidence...and you reading into it what is probably not there at all.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I just keep remembering the quote from Zoe:
"We live in a spaceship dear!"
We suspended our belief for a rag-tag crew of 9 once.......
One of the things I really really liked about Firefly was it's air of believe-ability. I can stretch to go there but I'd really prefer a good explanation and a wee bit of logic before they ram it down my throat. Sometimes Sci-fi has to stretch boundaries just to get in a story, but there is a breaking point, at least for me....
I always thought Lord of the Rings and Star Trek were more metaphors for Earth life too. Ferengi=Jews Cardassian=Italians Vulcans=Japanese ect..
Dwarves=German Hobbits=U.K. Elves=French
Write what you know...
Here is a page at Sci Fi hubby ran across last night that explains a bit about the Defiance 'Verse...
All of the Aliens are Votans, apparently from the same solar system, and I'm getting the vibe that each race represents complex issues of society like the original Star Trek did.
http://www.defiance.com/en/series/world-of-2046/town-of-defiance
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I'm not sure how much patience I'm going to have with this show. Yes, it is SF on a network that at one time was devoted to the genre, but it has a long way to go before it reaches the level of Firefly greatness, or Farscape, or even Eureka, as far as I'm concerned. I hope we will get some of that information in the show itself, but I think it is a sign of poor story-telling if you have to search elsewhere for the info.
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Dwarves=German Hobbits=U.K. Elves=French
Write what you know...
I get the first two, especially w/ the Hobbits, and Tolkien's view on nature and a 'small' people, just wanting to be left alone, but the Elves as 'French' ?
I suppose. A bit arrogant, pretentious at times, and w/ a love for wine.
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I do have to give credit for the Johnny Cash intro though... classy! 
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Originally posted by Wishimay:
I do have to give credit for the Johnny Cash intro though... classy!
THAT was a gutsy move, and I was a bit leery when they started into that bit. I mean, it could have gone well, or it could have gone really really poorly. But once she started in w/ JCC's lyrics, I was like "Whoah!" I think she may have won me over right there, on that scene alone.
*eta* Dang.. now I've got that song stuck in my head. Appreciate it. lol!
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees analogs to Dungeons and Dragons races.
Elves, orcs, bugbears, etc. I'm giving it a chance because I want
it to be good, or at least entertaining. Most Scifi-fantasy leaves me flat, though I yearn for something good.
It's no Firefly, but nothing is. The quality of that show won't be equaled until Mars aligns with Neptune in Libra in 2117...
(Just making up that last part.) Firefly was a perfect storm of talent and potential that leaves us wondering what it could have become, had it just lived a little longer. It's the Jimi/Janis/Jim of TV.
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