Boston
POSTED BY: MAL4PREZ
UPDATED: Friday, April 19, 2013 22:26
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Nail bombs, pricks.
I remember they were favoured by IRA in Britain in the 80's. Horrible
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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Most people here seem to think of a pressure cooker as a pressure cooker, not as bomb material, despite pressure cookers probably being more readily available here than places where pressure cooker bombs are more common.
Or, it could be someone from another country where those cookers are commonplace, as cooking devices, and as explosive containers...
Or they could be one of the thousands of troops who personally encountered, or were at the very least breifed about such devices...
Or know someone who did...
Or have a computer...
Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.
"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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Sure.
Look, as someone who has about 20 dangerous ideas in an hour and as a scientist, I have certain biases and assumptions I might tend to make about who might do something like this.
It was a stupid comment and I'm stupid for making it.
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Originally posted by Hero:Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
What makes this act "terrorism" and not Newtown or Aurora?
Motive.
Recently we used explosives to take down a building in my city...nobody was hurt. That wasn't terrorism either...it was "redevelopment". Similar acts undertaken for different reasons changes the nature of the act.
So again I ask: What makes *THIS* act "terrorism", and not Newtown or Aurora? Clearly the intent in all cases was to cause mayhem, death, mutilation.
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero
"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012
Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"
Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Niki ,
I responded as an AMERICAN who is sick of seeing politicians speak in empty, cowardly PC nonsense. That it was Obama? Not the issue.
In the first press release I saw, the White House called it an act of terror. They seemed pretty emphatic about that.
Now, that may not have been Obama saying that, but as you've said yourself, that's not the issue.
Good to hear you're not still whining about what the President did or didn't say.
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero
"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012
Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"
Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."
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I never DID " whine " about what the President did NOT say. He specifically steered clear of calling it terrorism in HIS address to the nation.
Those were HIS words, written , or approved, by him, specifically for THAT moment.
He could simply called it for exactly what it was, an act of terrorism, and be done w/ it. He chose NOT to.
That,imo, was a pussy's way out. Note how quickly he changed his tone , when it was clear that the rest of the country who DID hear him , noticed what he DIDN'T say ?
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
Resident USA Freedom Fundie
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Kwicko:Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
What makes this act "terrorism" and not Newtown or Aurora?
Motive.
Recently we used explosives to take down a building in my city...nobody was hurt. That wasn't terrorism either...it was "redevelopment". Similar acts undertaken for different reasons changes the nature of the act.
So again I ask: What makes *THIS* act "terrorism", and not Newtown or Aurora? Clearly the intent in all cases was to cause mayhem, death, mutilation.
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero
"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012
Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"
Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."
Don't.
Don't let him make yet another thread all about him.
Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.
"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
I wouldn't necessarily just label whoever did this as an amateur. The myriad potential uses of an unlikely package like a pressure cooker suggests at least some degree of a science background. They chose one of the cheapest and readily available ways to cause a lot of damage without raising too many red flags.
It does not require anything more then internet access.
Al Queda published a manual for making IEDs with pressure cookers. They have also called for attacks on sporting events.
H
Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012
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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
I'd rather hold my tongue, especially given the dearth of information available at this point in time, but one should know...
There was a contact of mine from IndyMedia on-site just prior, and whether or no his account is fully creditable it's hard to say, but according to him very shortly prior the security and other people moved into different positions and waited, so blatantly "they were practically checking their watches for christs sake!".
Crap. Crap and more crap...but lets ignore the crap for a moment...
People checking their watches...at a marathon. If your watch the footage you'll see runners and race officials checking their watches before, during, and after the race and before, during, and after the explosions. In fact people who run marathons everywhere do that. Must be a massive global runners conspiracy.
Checking the watch at a race...one that is all about time? Nope, must be a conspiracy.
I heard from a guy who heard from a guy that Bill Cosby was NOT at the race. What does that tell you?
H
Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Don't.
Don't let him make yet another thread all about him.
Amen. As if we had any doubt: there is truly no RW event that Rappy will not turn into his personal attention getting device. That doesn't belong here.
I had to take the day to get away from this. All there is right now is grief and shock at how horrible it must be for the victims. It was not spoken of at work today, in large part because I'm around a lot of folks who experienced 9/11 and they need their space. One man I work with was at ground 0 in 2001 and I know this rang some PTSD bells for him.
One bright spot, a thing I thought I'd never see: lights projected on buildings in Brooklyn saying NY *heart* B, with the B of the Boston Red Sox. I've always been nervous about wearing my red sox hoodie out and about in NYC. This setting aside of the sports grudge is unexpectedly touching.
Anyway, I too wonder who did it. I lean toward some domestic nutjob, mostly because no one has taken responsibility, but I really don't know. I hope to TPTB that the perp is found!
Frem, hon, this is one of the times when I think you're a little out there. (Tone clarification: the "hon" is meant kindly.)
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