Boston
POSTED BY: MAL4PREZ
UPDATED: Friday, April 19, 2013 22:26
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
By the way, is calling it an "act of terror" close enough to calling it terrorism ?
Obama didn't , in his initial address to the nation. Avoided the word in all forms. Axelrod even had to explain this, or try to. It was laughable.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
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Rappy- so what? Let's all agree that this was terrorism. Only let's agree that it will STILL be terrorism even after we find out the perp.
AFA the idea that the explosion looked and sounded like black powder- any thoughts from you gun experts out there?
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" so what? "
How about " you're right, Rap. He didn't ", and then go on from there?
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Ya hear that Sig - you are only allowed to proceed if you do so how rappy says.
Or, just ignore him.
Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.
"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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RAPPY, I don't know what the President did or didn't say, I was working and only found out about the bombing because my sister called to tell me. Yes, it was an act of terror, terrorism- whatever you want to call it. Glad we agree. If the President didn't call it terrorism, that's him- an abundance of caution. And what's the point of calling something terrorism if you have no idea who and why? All you do is rile people up, and they start going after every imagineable target... muslims, sikhs, teabaggers... any conceivable target will do.
MORE RELEVANT- Here's what I got out of watching the video and hearing the news:
That scene of the runner getting hit. I SAW the piece of debris that hit him, and my eyes are crappy. So it was moving relatively slowly. If it had been heavy- like a piece of concrete- he wouldn't have gotten up to finish the race, he would most likely be dead. So, it was a 'slow' explosion. In addition, the sound was a 'boom' or a thump, not a crack, and the lingering bluish-white smoke could have been gunpowder.
There were two packages, left at street level, in the style of an IED.
The bombs could have been even more deadly, and there were no 'secondary' devices- that is, devices set to explode once emergency personnel were on scene.
It was Tax Day, in Boston. Most people outside of the USA don't track our tax days or what it means to us. But it was a perfect soft target: a large event that is completely non-secureable, so the timing may be coincidental.
All of this is well within the scope of a single person working with homemade explosives who is unused to - and has gotten no advice about- killing people efficiently. If this was someone from the ME, I think they would have been far more efficient about maximizing casualities. It could be a Westerner/ American.
Right now, that's all I've been able to piece together. Does anyone have any other thoughts?
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Sig - my comment on Obama NOT calling it " terror " was primarily @ Kwickie . I agree w/ much of what you're saying on this matter.
( it was Patriots Day in Boston. It was tax day every where in the US. )
Storybook - hurts you THAT much to admit I'm right? Really?
Wow.
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I know this is a concept you cannot grasp rappy - but it's not about you.
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The news is full throttle in promoting this idea, that it HAD to be cell phone activated
I guess that's RAP's news, because on four other stations, I never heard a word about that...Quote:
Magons, the bitchfest is because everyone seems to have an interest in promoting their own beliefs. When people don't have facts, they reach. Me, I'm not reaching, or trying not to, I'm waiting to see what they learn, and I sincerely hope they DO learn who was behind this so there can be a minimum of insanity pointed in the wrong direction. I, too, agree that, as far as I've been able to learn, all we can agree on is]quote] the bombing should be condemned
nobody knows who did it yet
As far as I've been able to discern, currently this is what is known:Quote:
-- "This was a heinous and cowardly act and, given what we now know about what took place, the FBI is investigating it as an act of terrorism," President Barack Obama said on Tuesday at the White House after meeting with key advisers about the Boston Marathon bombing.
-- Obama said officials do not know whether the bombing was the work of a terrorist group or "a malevolent individual," nor do authorities have a sense of what may have been the motive.
-- "We will find whoever harmed our citizens and we will bring them to justice," he said.
-- No one is in custody, Police Commissioner Ed Davis told reporters Tuesday.
-- Authorities are processing "the most complex crime scene that we have dealt with in the history of our department," Davis said.
-- "Make no mistake: An act of cowardice and of this severity cannot be justified or explained," District Attorney Dan Conley said. "It can only be answered."
-- Thirty forensic specialists and a number of dogs trained to detect explosive devices and their residue are at the scene of the blasts, according to Gene Marquez, special agent in charge for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
-- No unexploded devices have been found, Marquez said.
-- Authorities are asking those who may have video or pictures from the scene around the time of the blasts to call city or FBI hotlines.
-- The blast site will take several days to process, Marquez said.
-- FBI Agent Rick DesLauriers said law enforcement has received a "voluminous" number of tips.
-- Attorney General Eric Holder and FBI Director Robert Mueller met with Obama at the White House.
-- A law enforcement official said there was no specific suspect in the bombings and no leading theory on a motive.
-- The official said investigators have found no surveillance video showing the bombs being put in place but were continuing to comb through video from nearby businesses, etc.
-- The intelligence community is poring through all threat reporting to see if there is anything that could be connected to the explosions in Boston, U.S. counterterrorism officials said.
-- The federal Emergency Response Team has cleared the crime scene near the finish line and is beginning to inventory the evidence, a federal law enforcement source said.
-- The device may have been placed in a trash can, from which shrapnel was created when it detonated.
-- Authorities searched an apartment late Monday in the town of Revere, northeast of Boston, and removed items, but would not say how the search might be linked to the investigation.
-- The official said the Revere search is connected to a young Saudi man on a student visa who has been questioned at a hospital.
-- The initial search found nothing related to the bombing, the official said.
-- The search took place with consent, so no search warrant was needed, a federal law enforcement official told CNN.
-- U.S. and Saudi officials said more than one Saudi has been interviewed. CNN knows of a male, whose apartment was searched, and a female. All those interviewed are cooperating, and none has been lab
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Quote:Important if true. This shows a serious intent to kill and maim, and some knowledge of how to do it.
The bombings resulted in at least 10 amputations and left doctors picking ball bearings out of victims in the emergency room, a terrorism expert briefed on the investigation said.
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(I may have to edit this, I'm just putting up stuff as fast as I can find it. If the text doesn't wrap, come back,
I'll have fixed it)
I find far more interesting the heroism shown by those who were there, dealing with the horror.Quote:
In the wake of the bloody explosions, the resolve of those on the scene and the heroic measures people go to in the midst of a crisis re-iterated everything you need to know about the American spirit.
Among the shattered glass and severed limbs of Monday's explosions are examples of the definition of heroic.
COWBOY-HAT WEARING HERO
By now you have seen the picture, above, a man being wheeled from the destruction following a blast at the finish line of the Boston Marathon on Monday. The photo has been cropped due to the severity of his lower limbs.
The man in the cowboy hat is just one of the many being called a hero.
The International Business Journal has identified the man as 52-year-old Carlos Arredondo. According to the report, he is "seemingly pinching off the exposed femoral artery of a victim who lost both his legs during the attack as he is escorted from the scene via wheelchair," in the picture above.
Arredondo can be seen helping with the immediate response to the explosions beginning at the 1:45 mark of the video below (video at http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/04/in_the_wake_of_one_cowardly_ac.html]). There was also a report of Arredondo trying to stop the bleeding of another victim of the explosion.
He was at the marathon to show support for a runner who dedicated his race to Arredondo's son, a U.S. Marine who was killed in the Iraq War, according to the Portland Press-Herald of Maine.
FORMER PATRIOT A TRUE PATRIOT
Former New England Patriots offensive lineman Joe Andruzzi was at the finish line of the Boston Marathon because his charitable foundation, which had participants in the marathon, was hosting an event at a local establishment, according to ESPN.com.
The former NFL star was photographed carrying a woman to safety.
Andruzzi, who played for the Patriots from 2000-04 has three brothers who were New York City firefighters involved in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, per ESPN.
He released a statement earlier Monday.
"Marathon Monday should be about uplifting stories, personal challenges and fundraising milestones, but today's bombings irrevocably changed that," the statement said. "While I appreciate the interest in hearing our perspective on today's horrific events, the spotlight should remain firmly on the countless individuals -- first responders, medics, EMTs, runners who crossed the finish line and kept on running straight to give blood, and the countless civilians who did whatever they could to save lives. They were the true heroes. Our thoughts and prayers go out to all those affected by this senseless tragedy."
HEROES COME FROM ALL OVER AND IN ALL FORMS
While many of the heroes were at the blast site, the outpouring of support came from all over.
A Google doc was created with Boston-area people offering a place to stay for those that were stranded.
Google also made a people finder for those locating loved ones.
Local restaurants offered free food to those who could not pay, and there was a city-wide plead to unlock WiFi for those who needed Internet access.
http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/04/in_the_wake_of_one_cowardly_ac.htmlQuote:
Following the deadly blasts at the Boston Marathon, acts of heroism were shared on Twitter and the Web.
Some runners who crossed the finish line continued running to Massachusetts General Hospital to donate blood.Quote:
The fact that so many runners in the Boston marathon kept running after the marathon to the hospital to donate blood, touches my heart. — olivia duran (@olivia
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