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Fox bans the sale of unlicensed Jayne hats from Firefly

POSTED BY: HAKEN
UPDATED: Sunday, April 14, 2013 16:27
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Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:59 PM

We can hve both, the problem is we can NOT use the term "Jayne Hat",...the name is part of the trade mark now and that is what all the fuss is about. Us knitters have always used that term, but since ThinkGeek went looking for the rights to sell them, and Ripple Junction(I think thats their name, I will check and correct if wrong)has the rights, Thanks to ThinkGeek starting this inquiry, & ThinkGeek telling everyone on the hat listing that they could be found on Etsy, Fox had its lawyers go after the Etsy sellers. Its the same crap as when Fox went after the T-shirt makers a few years back,...we can't use the words "Firefly" or "Jayne Hat".

Now ThinkGeek is trying to win back customers by saying they will donate the profits to CSTS, BUT I don't care, they started this whole mess by going looking for the ability to sell them in the first place,...the're pretending they didin't know this would happen, bull sh*t! They are in BUSINESS, they understand trade marks and copy rights.

I have made them for 6 years and I sell them to a large group, who sell them at Comic Con,.....I have sold them on the boards, but not many, so they don't know who I am.

Greed is the problem, greed by Fox and greed by ThinkGeek. JMHO

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Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by fillygirl:
I have made them for over 6 years, the license seems to cover the term "Jayne" hat, so we need to call them "Maw Cobb Hats" or "Cunning Hats",...any body got any ideas for names for the hats? I will still make them, just not called that anymore,...



Fandom Hats?

David

'Begone, sugar-free candy antichrist!' - Nathan Rabin.

'Geeks can't admit that anything worthwhile was invented before 1981. Soon, "making cocoa" will be called "milk hacking."' - Lore Sjoberg

http://xkcd.com/386/

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Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by manatee:
Can anyone check with Joss & see if he is ok with calling them:
"cunning orange hat as seen on that Joss Whedon show"?
...that's how Nathan referred to Firefly in the Castle episode about murder
at a con.

What's next - Fox sues surgeons & law enforcement for wearing
blue surgical gloves?



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........Arthur C. Clarke




If I knew how to get a message to him I would have asked for help, but he doesn't check in at Whedonesque much and I forgot his new Twitter handle,...I Tweeted to Nathan, he just Tweeted about them & asked him to tell Adam (Adam is in New Zealand right now) if we can call them "Adam Baldwin Hats".
I wonder if Joss would rather stay out of this one,...JMHO

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Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by daveshayne:
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Originally posted by fillygirl:
I have made them for over 6 years, the license seems to cover the term "Jayne" hat, so we need to call them "Maw Cobb Hats" or "Cunning Hats",...any body got any ideas for names for the hats? I will still make them, just not called that anymore,...



Fandom Hats?

David

'Begone, sugar-free candy antichrist!' - Nathan Rabin.

'Geeks can't admit that anything worthwhile was invented before 1981. Soon, "making cocoa" will be called "milk hacking."' - Lore Sjoberg

http://xkcd.com/386/

"Don't worry. Captain Hammer will save us." - Penny.

I has myspace - http://www.myspace.com/daveshayneforpresident



You know that may not be a bad idea....:)

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Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:00 AM

Now Jayne heard the Fandom's hearts breaking
He heard the Browncoats lament
And he saw the FOX corp suits taking
All the Jayne hats off of the nets

He said you can't do that to the knitters
You can't unravel their work
So he strapped on his hat
And in ten seconds flat
Said FOX dudes don't be a jerk

That last line needs work I think.

David

'Begone, sugar-free candy antichrist!' - Nathan Rabin.

'Geeks can't admit that anything worthwhile was invented before 1981. Soon, "making cocoa" will be called "milk hacking."' - Lore Sjoberg

http://xkcd.com/386/

"Don't worry. Captain Hammer will save us." - Penny.

I has myspace - http://www.myspace.com/daveshayneforpresident

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Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:17 AM

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Originally posted by Zeek:
Do we want more merchandise like that crazy detailed hand made model that lights up or do we want to just stick with the fan made works?



Frankly, I do not want merchandise like the two thousand, five hundred dollar light up model
when a fan produced a very nice $250 resin kit.....
......oh that's right, that got C&D'd out of existence, too.
So, I can't in anyway justify thousands of dollars for the licensed product,
and they kill off the unlicensed stuff I CAN afford.
All that means is I'm not buying (or supporting) Firefly at all.
Yessir, keep "building" that fandom, corporate lawyers.
(And I get protecting copyright, but in the entertainment biz,
somebody in legal needs to team up with somebody in creative
and start thinking outside the box.)

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Sunday, April 14, 2013 4:27 PM

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Originally posted by manatee:
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somebody in legal needs to team up with somebody in creative

Too bad that seems to work as well as mixing matter and
antimatter: you get a lot of heat, and everyone gets burned.

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The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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