OoG mistake...

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UPDATED: Friday, October 8, 2004 16:47
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GUILDSISTER

Monday, September 20, 2004 8:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by wydraz:
It COULD have stopped, if it was using inertialess drives.

Urrrr... when they're using flame-out-the-tail uttermost basic physics engines for primary drive thrust?

Of course, there's the FTL conundrum--they have to have FTL in some form to match the requirements of the stories.

See... this is why show creators don't have to figure all this stuff out--just show us the stuff, make it reasonably logical, and we'll figure out the technicalities, physics, and rationalizations. Trek used to do that with their multitude of continuity glitches.

Guildsister

WILDHEAVENFARM

Monday, September 20, 2004 8:30 PM

Maybe the faint gravitational fields of the nearest stars slowed her down.

Mary
Always a beast, never a burden.

MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Monday, September 20, 2004 8:32 PM

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Originally posted by Littlemanlovesfire:
Another question which is sort of relevent - in OiS is Serenity still? Because how could Earley jump down onto the ship like that?

See B5 - the spinny bit creates the gravity - whether Serenity has that built in in any way, who knows.

"I threw up on your bed"

GROUNDED

Monday, September 20, 2004 8:46 PM

"perhaps even drifting back towards it as the only local source of any gravity."

I do hope you're joking ;)

AURAPTOR

Monday, September 20, 2004 10:41 PM

Well, if you recall, Kaylee tells Mal " she's not moving". At the time, they're looking at Zoe lying in sick bay, and we're led to believe that they're talking about her, but then Kaylee follows up with... " Serenity's not moving".

Now, did Kaylee literally mean she ship was absolutely still ?...or just that the engines weren't working and they were "dead in the water."

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

LITTLEMANLOVESFIRE

Monday, September 20, 2004 10:41 PM

I understand that Earley's ship matches Serenity's speed - if she is moving this is - but then what is propelling him? He jumps down from his ship and it takes him a good 5 seconds to land on Serenity. HE hasn't got boosters. He isn't matching Serenity's speed even if his ship is, surely he would vanish into the distance before he could land on her?

Or am I seriously misunderstanding the basics of physics here?

RABIT

Monday, September 20, 2004 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by Littlemanlovesfire:
Or am I seriously misunderstanding the basics of physics here?

Not seriously - just enough to have a problem.

There is nothing to slow him down. He's actually traveling at the same speeds as the two ships, as their is no air resistance - or anything else for that matter - to decelerate him. Since he starts out going the same speed as his ship, he's still going that speed when he leaves it. (Basically - give or take a little due to the forces of his foot on the floor pushing off, etc., as was stated earlier...

)

Hope that helps!

Rabit

BIKISDAD

Monday, September 20, 2004 11:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Grounded:
"perhaps even drifting back towards it as the only local source of any gravity."

I do hope you're joking ;)

Actually, that would be absolutely true. All matter produces a gravitational field in proportion to its mass. Since Serenity is the only object around the debris with any significant mass, it would exert a small gravitational pull that would eventually attract all of the expelled debris back to the ship. Since the gravitational field is inversely proportional to the distance between objects, the closest objects would be pulled back more quickly and more distant debris would return at a slower initial rate, but would accelerate as they got closer.

If you don't think the gravitational field of something so "small" as a spaceship is capable of that, then the formation of stars due only to the gravitational attraction of many individual hydrogen atoms should shed some "light".

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

ZOID

Tuesday, September 21, 2004 12:02 AM

Grounded wrote:

Quote:
"perhaps even drifting back towards it as the only local source of any gravity."

I do hope you're joking ;)

In addition to what bikisdad wrote in response, remember what Jayne said to Simon in "Bushwhacked":

JAYNE
"Impressive what "nothing" can do to a man. Like that feller we bumped into. Yeah. He's likely stuck up under our belly about now. That's what space trash does, ya know. Kinda latches onto the first big somethin' stops long enough.

"Hey -- now that'd be a bit like you and your sister, wouldn't it?"

I wouldn't necessarily assume Firefly's writers are clueless on the science implied on the show...

Respectfully,

zoid

P.S.
That scene also puts paid to fantasies about Jayne and River hooking up, in my book. He sees them both as nuisances to be rid of. He's a crim, not a nanny.
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CORWYN

Tuesday, September 21, 2004 12:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by grrarrg:
But I remember something about the commentaries on the pilot - when they passed the reaver ship the first time, they should have both been travelling so fast that they barely saw each other, but it played out as if they were slow-moving ocean liners. They acknowledged that that was innacurate (I don't remember if it was an accident or if they took creative liberties with physics for the sake of heightening the drama),

I always saw this as a CGI error rather than a script error. Mal says 'we are PASSING another ship...' To me this means they are traveling in roughly the same direction. This could mean that their relative velocities are small. It could take quite a while to pass them. The trouble is the outside view which shows them coming at each other.

Oh well.

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