Game of Thrones - Season 2
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What a great interview! She's amazing. I may have to take a trip to NYC to see her on stage in Breakfast At Tiffany's.
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Mostly all Brits on the show. I also learned last Sunday that Rick and Maggie on The Walking Dead are Brits too. What's going on here? I haven't seen a British Invasion like this since the 60's. Jolly good shows, more appropriately bloody good shows!
I take it you didn't see any of the Harry Potter movies? JK Rowling reportedly had a pretty simple edict about making the movies: Don't hire foreign actors if there were British actors able to do the roles.
I had assumed that the show was a collaboration between HBO and BBC (PBS has a similar arrangement with BBC for "Downton Abbey", if memory serves, and HBO has done so in the past for shows such as "Rome"), but a search of IMDB shows no real British studio connection that I see. Maybe they just thought that with Westeros seeming to be so heavily based on medieval England, the British accents just made more sense.
HBO's "The Wire" had a British contingent, too - Dominic West (McNulty) and Aiden Gillen (Tommy Carcetti) and Edris Elba (Stringer Bell) being chief among them.
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Originally posted by two:Quote:Game of Thrones won the 2011 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Main Title Design. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primetime_Emmy_Award_for_Outstanding_Main
Originally posted by Kwicko:
I don't know if the opening credits have won Emmy awards or not, but they damned well should.
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Director Angus Wall at Elastic in Santa Monica: "The project started with a conversation almost two years ago. Since the series takes place in a made-up world, we were tasked with creating a map to orient the viewer, similar to how the legend in fantasy books orients the reader. Fortunately, the book series' author, George RR Martin, created a series of 2D maps that we used as our foundation. we ended up creating four versions of the main title, each representing the locations visited in each individual episode.
"I really wanted to create something different. I also wanted to create something that felt like a real physical object, something that would have taken several man-years to build in the real world. I initially thought the map should be shaped like a bowl - so we couldn't see beyond the edges of it - but quickly realized we needed to go further and wrap it inside a sphere. It then made sense to light it from within (hence the astrolabe/sun structure at its center).
"Once the shape of the world was settled, it was a question of how many locations we wanted to show and how much detail the map should have. I wanted to reveal the key locations in a dramatic way, and we settled on having each major location grow out of the floor of the map and build itself mechanically. We referenced Leonardo da Vinci's machine designs for how these mechanical structures should look and operate. After several rounds of concept drawings, we created CG models and started to block out the sequence.
"There aren't any shortcuts to creating a world from scratch, so we ended up creating layers and layers of detail - so much that it's impossible to show all of it in 90 seconds. Hopefully you feel that when you watch. Technically that meant creating a mechanical language and sticking to it. It's a testament to everyone who worked on the project that there is such a granular sense of detail in the sequence."
Design by Elastic www.elastic.tv
VFX by A52 www.a52.com
The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two
On rewatching Season Two, preparing for Season Three, I noticed something in the opening credits which I hadn't caught before: Watch when they show Harrenhall; all the other locations grow up out of the map, parapets and bridges rise, towers go up, trees sprout and branch - but not in Harrenhall. There, nothing grows; it's all been burned by dragonfire. It's a ruins (or as Stewie Griffin would say, "It's rhuined.")
I finished the first book, am well started on the second, and have rewatched both seasons of the show thus far. I did not read the books before seeing the show, and I loved the show so much it made me want to read the books. So I bought "Game of Thrones", and it's *amazing*. It's fantastically amazingly unbelievably stupendous. And for the record, I hate swords-n-sorcery books. This one grabbed me immediately, and I could tell it was going to be better than the series. Well, not better, exactly, but different. Deeper.
After seeing the show, I loved the book. And after reading the book, the show is incredibly better. This is one of those exceedingly rare times when the show and books seem to compliment each other perfectly, to help and feed off each other.
By most accounts, the third book is the best of all, so I'm practically giddy with anticipation for this season of the show!
And the casting is just astonishing. Sure, a few liberties are taken with some details of appearances, but the show does a pretty damned spiffy job of taking these people from the page to the screen quite faithfully.
If
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I finished the first book, am well started on the second, and have rewatched both seasons of the show thus far. I did not read the books before seeing the show, and I loved the show so much it made me want to read the books. So I bought "Game of Thrones", and it's *amazing*. It's fantastically amazingly unbelievably stupendous. And for the record, I hate swords-n-sorcery books. This one grabbed me immediately, and I could tell it was going to be better than the series. Well, not better, exactly, but different. Deeper.
I'm right there with you, on this and the rest of your post. I LOVE this series, both the show and the books. You're so right about how they complement each other: each makes the other better. Huge props to the show creators, who put the detail in there. I just watched season 1 again reading all the books, and had to squee at all the little things...
Going the other way, when I'm reading I can visualize the settings and buildings and clothes and food and banners and every one of the characters - except Tirion. The book claims that he is hideously ugly, but Dinklage is quite handsome and noble. This doesn't bother me, because his delivery of the lines is spot-on.
The books... I tore through all five last summer, and have done a second reading. Good lord, it's hard to go back to book 3 after so much happens by the end of book 5! Don't worry - no spoilers here. I'm just dying that the next book won't be out until 2015.
It's so detailed and rich. It's unbelievable. I just, not ten minutes ago, finished watching the Hobbit for the first time, and compared to GoT it looked hollow and cartoonish and unreal. And I love the Hobbit and LoTR! GoT is just that good. I could gush all night about it.
About book 3 being the best: I don't know about that. It certainly is interesting. Shit happens. I think it'll be an excellent season. But books 4 and 5 are also amazing. I can't imagine how Martin came up with all this!
/slightly embarrassed by all this gushing, as I am the person who always has criticism about everything. Not this!
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I hear ya, M4P - I rarely gush, and I just about never (Okay, maybe once in a generation) like the movie or TV show better than the book, but HBO really did nail it with this series.
Tyrion threw me a bit, too - from the description in the books, he's got an oversized, misshapen, lop-sided head, different colored eyes, etc. - but goddamn if Dinklage doesn't just own that role. And most of the show.
I have no idea where Martin is taking me, or where we're going to end up, but it's a hell of a fantastic ride so far!
I've never read Tolkein. I admit it. I tried when I was 12, but threw the damned book across the room because I felt like even as a 12 year-old, he was patronizing with his writing style. It was like listening to Bobby Jindal give a speech, with undue emphasis placed on every word like it was extra-special or something.
And I actually tried to watch the LoTR movies, more than once I tried, and I cannot stomach them. They're just far too juvenile for me to get into.
There. I said it, and I'll likely be nailed to a cross of books for finally saying it out loud.
Oh, and several people have told me that the books are just as full of gratuitous lascivious sex as the series (Game of Thrones, I mean, not those dreadful Hobbit books!), but frankly I'm just not seeing it. I'm not a prude by any means (more of a libertine, truth be told), but I think the show wouldn't lose a thing if people spent more time with more clothes on. I hear they're talking about naming close-cropped patch of pubes on the women "the King's Landing Strip" instead of the Brazilian. 
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"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012
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Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."
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Quote:Amen! I'm so glad it didn't get made into movies. It needs multiple seasons of episodes to handle all the intrigue and different characters and plots and settings. And man, are they going all out! It is visually perfect.
Originally posted by Kwicko:
I hear ya, M4P - I rarely gush, and I just about never (Okay, maybe once in a generation) like the movie or TV show better than the book, but HBO really did nail it with this series.
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I have no idea where Martin is taking me, or where we're going to end up, but it's a hell of a fantastic ride so far!
I have heard people opine that Martin has no idea where he's going, like Stephen King with the Dark Tower series with it's very shitty ending (imho). But I don't agree about Martin. I think he may be expanding on the middle more than he intended, but I think he has a goal in sight. I have no idea what it is either, but there are threads that make sense...
Spoiler alert for anyone not through 2 seasons!
One example is the Melisandre, the red woman. She bugged me at first. But I'm seeing how her religion with the worship of fire and fear of darkness might be related to whatever is beyond the wall. Song of fire and ice: battle between dragons/ the red woman's god against the white walkers and whatever else is up there.
Not that I'm suggesting it's so simple. There are all kinds of complications with the different factions getting in the way of this main conflict, and those complications will likely be a bigger part of the story. But I see that main conflict underlying things. I think he's got a plan with it.
Even if not, the ride is so enjoyable!
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I've never read Tolkein. I admit it. I tried when I was 12, but threw the damned book across the room because I felt like even as a 12 year-old, he was patronizing with his writing style. It was like listening to Bobby Jindal give a speech, with undue emphasis placed on every word like it was extra-special or something.
And I actually tried to watch the LoTR movies, more than once I tried, and I cannot stomach them. They're just far too juvenile for me to get into.
There. I said it, and I'll likely be nailed to a cross of books for finally saying it out loud.
No, that's fair. I was quite addicted to LoTR through middle school and high school. I've read these so many times that you can read one sentence and I'll tell you where exactly it came from, even though I haven't read them in years.
I liked how the language started simple and childlike in the Shire, but as the characters went on their journey and the plot get darker the language become more mature and weighted. But most of all I just liked being in that world. I was a kid who liked escapism. Still do, but my tastes have changed. I'm not drawn into LoTR these days, and I have to admit that the movies, while visually stunning, were a little disappointing for me.
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Oh, and several people have told me that the books are just as full of gratuitous lascivious sex as the series (Game of Thrones, I mean, not those dreadful Hobbit books!), but frankly I'm just not seeing it. I'm not a prude by any means (more of a libertine, truth be told), but I think the show wouldn't lose a thing if people spent more time with more clothes on. I hear they're talking about naming close-cropped patch of pubes on the women "the King's Landing Strip" instead of the Brazilian.
Hunh. I thought the "Brazilian" meant bare naked. Such it was in an episode of Sex and the City, and I think those ladies knew all about personal pruning...
Whatever. I don't mind the nudity. Flash of booby here, privates there. I think it's honest to the Medieval times. Or really, honest to many societies that weren't founded by Puritans. What I don't really need is the Sexposition. I don't much love the blatant violence either. Blood spurting and such.
But, then again, it is true of t
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Quote:Wiki says Martin outlined the unfinished novels for the TV writers:
Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
I'm so glad it didn't get made into movies. It needs multiple seasons of episodes to handle all the intrigue and different characters and plots and settings.
I have heard people opine that Martin has no idea where he's going, . . . but I don't agree . . . I think he has a goal in sight. I have no idea what it is either, but there are threads that make sense...
Quote:Should Martin die before his novels are finished, the show goes on, God & HBO willing.
Showrunners David Benioff and D.B. Weiss intend to adapt the entirety of the still incomplete A Song of Ice and Fire novel series, if HBO permits it. They envision the series to have a scope of some 80 hours, about eight seasons' worth of material. However, Benioff and Weiss have no intention of padding Game of Thrones out so as to wait for George R.R. Martin (who has taken up to six years to write an installment of A Song of Ice and Fire) to finish writing the last two novels. Knowing the broad outlines of Martin's intended ending for A Song of Ice and Fire, and concerned that extending Game of Thrones to ten seasons would kill its sense of momentum, they consider it possible (if not preferable) that the TV series ends before the last novel is published. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones_(TV_series)#Adaptation_sc
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The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
Spoiler alert for anyone not through 2 seasons!
One example is the Melisandre, the red woman. She bugged me at first. But I'm seeing how her religion with the worship of fire and fear of darkness might be related to whatever is beyond the wall. Song of fire and ice: battle between dragons/ the red woman's god against the white walkers and whatever else is up there.
Not that I'm suggesting it's so simple. There are all kinds of complications with the different factions getting in the way of this main conflict, and those complications will likely be a bigger part of the story. But I see that main conflict underlying things. I think he's got a plan with it.
Even if not, the ride is so enjoyable!
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I'm just guessing at this point, going off things said and unsaid, but...
It's going to get kinda weird when Danaerys Targarian finds out that Jon Snow is her nephew. Rhaegar, Dany's oldest brother, fathered Jon Snow with Ned Stark's sister Lyanna.
I'm hoping they'll be allies - he of the north, her with her dragons, his ice and her fire forging an alliance on the anvil of King's Landing.
I don't think Jon has any desire to be a king; he just doesn't want to be a bastard. The question is, is there anyone alive who knows his real parentage? We know he's not the blood of the dragon, because he burns. Dany is the only Targaryen with dragon's blood, it seems.
So that's kind of where I'm at with where I think we're being taken.
By the way, do any of them realize what Melisandre is and who she's working for with her "Lord of Light"?
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"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012
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Should Martin die before his novels are finished, the show goes on, God & HBO willing.
That's awesome! I have wondered about the pace of things, given that actors age. The actors should age to fit the parts, but it'll be a long time before he finishes writing. That'd be quite weird, to have the series end, then get the final novel with all the details later.
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